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I wish you to see the difference in people with and without those things. You can make up your mind afterwards. Curiosity and reason&evidence all it takes to get clarity. thumbs up, fella Barnsley

If you're 19 and not sure about all of this, don't get into any relationships/dating yet. Find yourself first, find out what you want, when and how, etc. I could write a whole essay on what and why, but let me ask you first, why are you uncertain about this in the first place? The natural thing is to have a family, so why is there some doubt or uncertainty? What do you think about a family, or even when kids aren't involved, what do you think about a long-term/permanent relationship with a woman? What are some things you think make you wonder if this is the kind of life you want to life? Maybe think about how your own family/childhood affected your thinking. I would suggest finding tons of calls from previous call-in shows about relationships to see different perspectives and positions. Other than that, maybe call into the show yourself, we haven't had this kind of call in a long time and I think it's always beneficial to bring this one up. MGTOW is a poison to relationships and is just a temporary and simplistic bitterness or misunderstanding about women and relationships.

Also, I'll add some advice that was given to me, regarding managing expectations and going forward: you can't act from, or act to achieve a negative. I was trying to figure out the best way to go "no contact" that would cause the least amount of hurt or damage, when I asked about how to do it (should I write a letter, say something in person, etc...). It was put to me this way: "for what value am I acting to keep?". And, that my framing of the question was off. I was asking how to achieve a negative value (how NOT to do/achieve something), and not a positive value. It was said that that approach blows my whole expectation of yourself and reality "out of the water" and resulted only made me anxious, depressed, fearful, obsessed, etc. Once I looked at the opposite approach, of trying to create a value, it didn't make it "easy", but it alleviate those conditions. Hope that helps.

Read my second post. p.s. MUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRVVVVVVVVVAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRDDDDD! (that is my impression of you).

My impression of you is really low testosterone and soon to be cucked. Good luck with that.

Do you want to take my bants on the chin and read my second post? Or is that your final answer?

I just fired back at your nonsensical post. If you called into FDR/Stefan and accused him of saying something but, did not time stamp it, he would laugh in your face. Time stamp sources.

I would love to hear more of the MGTOW community, since it is a very underdiscussed and misunderstood phenomenon. My take on it is that almost all of MGTOW did not choose to be so, and are only pretending to be masters of their state. Due to extreme female hypergamy, more than 80% of all men don't stand a chance with women in the beginning. This number decreases, of course, as the men age, but in the end, there will still be 50% of all men who haven't gotten the chance. If Spladam already rates himself omega, I don't think this is even a choice. I know so many good men, many of whom I would gladly take to the siege of Constantinole, never get any attention from women, or at the best kept in reserve to fall back on after 10 badboys, 3 children and 7 abortions. Hi, Spladam If you are counting on real good quality women to notice you, you may as well go get a lottery ticket; there are simply not enough of them to go around. Also, better not forget that you are competing for them against me. I'm sorry.

If your point isn't worth time stamping Stefan would dismiss your nonsense as would Peterson. If it was not worthy of time stamping, your post is not worthy of listening to but, I digress. I saw a link saying that Peterson is making 60K a month off social media/youtube/biz ventures but, I am sure you are doing better. Wait wut?