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I have to say that I loved stefan's approach on this debate... stefan was dealing with the idea of basic attitudes and beliefs held by certain people groups... and the impact that transplanting these groups will have on the movement of these ideas... while adam was basically saying he wants to burn down the system and adam was arguing that no group is superior... and what adam was doing was cherry picking... for points to support his ideas... adam is the guy who would shoot to defend himself in the wrong side of town at midnight... while stefan is the guy who would not end up there... because he is aware of his soroundings... will probably not end up there...