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This, I'm not sure about in the plural sense. (from 01:37:05) Am I wrong? as in: ° 4 children (all 4 working, 3 doing high-end professions... doctors... etc.) ° only the mother who doesn't, lives with the sister of the caller's wife, not mentioned whether the mother's on welfare  -> I remember the mother lived with them and was elderly. So it could be that the caller and/or her kids are supporting her rather than welfare That's why I intended to help you re-listen to the part. Had you done so, I think would have been preferably better... (free choices people make) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also, it looks like to me, that you're avoiding to make a correction. (no probs, you don't have to) This, I also think is factual. This, I believe to be your personal assertion, hadn't heard anything that would support it other than the caller's personal and wrongful personal deference. (apart from me disagreeing, which doesn't mean I'm correct...) Please, elaborate on the basis for the validity of your idea. (... you already have my counter, the 'scorpion & frog' + 'women have the ultimate say' arguments) Nope. You and every sentient, cognitively capable being has the capacity to free-will. Choosing to not choose but 'let them fall where they may' IS also a choice, inalienable from one's agency. The only scenario in which I could vaguely imagine some probability for your argument is if he'd been a 'Manchurian candidate' but that falls apart instantaneously once you recall how he'd been changing his behaviour thanks to the argumentation of Stefan Molyneux. Does it make sense to you what I'm saying above ? White societies are high-trust societies, and high-trust societies are, for the most part, white. Japan is a notable exception.  I'm sorry that you went to all that effort to support a point I wasn't addressing... May others find the references useful. Lemme try again... Does it matter what ethnicity is a tennis player on a court, when playing a match? As in: To be able to be granted a point, was ethnicity any relevance? Not that much. This husband-cucking African woman was the best that this man believed he could do, which means she is the best he can do. (He might be able to work on his mindset and do better, but for now, she is the best he can do.)  My quote was longer there, would have been better had you included it... sigh. You did generalise before, now you switched to the individual. Does that mean you admit you weren't accurate before? (... or perhaps you missed my 'highlighting-wunder-magic' ?) Probably this you meant in a hiper-inflated, exaggerated sarcastic way.  next 'thingy'... With some mindset training, he could do better. But what makes this guy's mindset weak? It's his deferral to women, which is the norm for Western men.   Yes. But what are the norms or averages? The caller is well above average in looks and about average in mindset. And a total cuck. Which seems to be the average Western mindset.  Here I'm speaking to, what IS, the individual and those that are prepared and willing to filter adequately. yet, You speak of what could be (future&now) why he was the way he is and then jumping to, again blanketing Western men, when I argued for individuals such as my/yourself... Dude! it's like you're having a different conversation with someone else or I'm not following, how, what you've responded is connected with what I had put forward... oh, dear. Do you see what I see? Sorry, not interested in discussing this part as of now.