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Yep. Stacked mistakes one on top of another... Well done Western parents, the guy obviously hasn't learnt to filter, stand up for his values, lacking a lot of life-skills and paying it with more involvement of the state, detriment to the environment, society... meanwhile his parents walk scoff free, very few people see the full story (thanks to the show, this time it's very different though)... ugh, a mess. A highly instructive conversation, stern reminder of what the lack of, (or rather) how negative values-propaganda can influence a man's life, how much damage control is necessary afterwards. This, I'm not sure about in the plural sense. (from 01:37:05) Am I wrong? as in: ° 4 children (all 4 working, 3 doing high-end professions... doctors... etc.) ° only the mother who doesn't, lives with the sister of the caller's wife, not mentioned whether the mother's on welfare Do you mean, the father & the mother? ('takes two to dance') add to that the fact that genome propagation ultimately is always in the hands of the women (as it's been reinforced by caller's description of the wife's decisions, her mother's bad decisions, bad parenting-photocopying... etc), they have the final say whom do they choose to be the father of the child, to abort or not in highly exceptional cases. (In this sense, in general, their responsibility and the need for forward thinking is higher. ie. - the fable of the scorpion and the frog, the frog can't blame the scorpion) and (another point of agency) That the caller NEVER took the time to examine his core beliefs, especially after he got independent? (even though I'm sure he suspected there was a sea of red flags, he shouldn't have waited until things got catastrophic, obviously 'rotten') Why white? Why not just simply 'good and vetted-principles driven' society, in general where people cared about the truth and honesty, looking out for each other? Probably this you meant in a hiper-inflated, exaggerated sarcastic way. There ARE women and men who'd never let their standards sink so low, would take action much sooner to avoid ending up in situations such as the caller's. Right?! For example nor you or I would let this happen in our lives... or the many other multitude of people seeking truth, reason and evidence. (I know they are very rare but that only means you need to look harder-better/become more visible.)

This, I'm not sure about in the plural sense. (from 01:37:05) Am I wrong? as in: ° 4 children (all 4 working, 3 doing high-end professions... doctors... etc.) ° only the mother who doesn't, lives with the sister of the caller's wife, not mentioned whether the mother's on welfare  -> I remember the mother lived with them and was elderly. So it could be that the caller and/or her kids are supporting her rather than welfare That's why I intended to help you re-listen to the part. Had you done so, I think would have been preferably better... (free choices people make) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also, it looks like to me, that you're avoiding to make a correction. (no probs, you don't have to) This, I also think is factual. This, I believe to be your personal assertion, hadn't heard anything that would support it other than the caller's personal and wrongful personal deference. (apart from me disagreeing, which doesn't mean I'm correct...) Please, elaborate on the basis for the validity of your idea. (... you already have my counter, the 'scorpion & frog' + 'women have the ultimate say' arguments) Nope. You and every sentient, cognitively capable being has the capacity to free-will. Choosing to not choose but 'let them fall where they may' IS also a choice, inalienable from one's agency. The only scenario in which I could vaguely imagine some probability for your argument is if he'd been a 'Manchurian candidate' but that falls apart instantaneously once you recall how he'd been changing his behaviour thanks to the argumentation of Stefan Molyneux. Does it make sense to you what I'm saying above ? White societies are high-trust societies, and high-trust societies are, for the most part, white. Japan is a notable exception.  I'm sorry that you went to all that effort to support a point I wasn't addressing... May others find the references useful. Lemme try again... Does it matter what ethnicity is a tennis player on a court, when playing a match? As in: To be able to be granted a point, was ethnicity any relevance? Not that much. This husband-cucking African woman was the best that this man believed he could do, which means she is the best he can do. (He might be able to work on his mindset and do better, but for now, she is the best he can do.)  My quote was longer there, would have been better had you included it... sigh. You did generalise before, now you switched to the individual. Does that mean you admit you weren't accurate before? (... or perhaps you missed my 'highlighting-wunder-magic' ?) Probably this you meant in a hiper-inflated, exaggerated sarcastic way.  next 'thingy'... With some mindset training, he could do better. But what makes this guy's mindset weak? It's his deferral to women, which is the norm for Western men.   Yes. But what are the norms or averages? The caller is well above average in looks and about average in mindset. And a total cuck. Which seems to be the average Western mindset.  Here I'm speaking to, what IS, the individual and those that are prepared and willing to filter adequately. yet, You speak of what could be (future&now) why he was the way he is and then jumping to, again blanketing Western men, when I argued for individuals such as my/yourself... Dude! it's like you're having a different conversation with someone else or I'm not following, how, what you've responded is connected with what I had put forward... oh, dear. Do you see what I see? Sorry, not interested in discussing this part as of now.

Hi voter, Thanks for your interest and views! I'm sorry we disagree. (Normally, I just add a thanks to my post but now it's not possible)