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Did someone say 'group call about UPB'? I'm in. Please ping me at [email protected] with more details or a link to RSVP, I'm seldom at forums. EDIT: Wrong thread.
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Recent Drama with Bitnation. http://cointelegraph.com/news/112725/bitnation-core-dev-team-resigns-speaks-out-before-crowdsaleI've never endorsed the project, just expressed interest in the idea and even though this implemintation likely won't happen, the essense of some of their ideas stand, particularly decentralized insurance I think.
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Thank you for the long responce! I've been focusing on NXT the past few weeks and would love to have a change and exchange knowledge on these second gen platforms.To be perfectly clear, I do not endorse Bitnation. I only mention it as an example of people working on decentralized insurance companies among other things, Decentralized insurance or DDROs are my only interest in Bitnation right now. And it is their essense that intrigues me not the means in which they may be applied, atleast at this time.I've made the same post on the science and technology sub forum and there is more conversation there.Here's a poste I made there that I think is relevant.Yeah, whether it is another altcoin or ontop of a second gen altcoin like Ethereum, NXT or Bitnation, does not fundamentally matter, it only does as far as the efficiency of transactions and the ease of application, I would say.For example, in the time that devs have been trying to build decentralized asset exchanges ontop of Bitcoin, NXT was able to build the asset exchange, decentralized encrypted messaging and an alias system. basically catching up with the development in the space and being the first to have a decentralized stock market per say.Why? because Bitcoin was arguably a high quality proof of concept that spread like health bringing beubonic plague.NXT another crypto created by an anon developer "BCNext" was much more effective as a second gen currency and seemed to learn and improve upon the lessons of Bitcoin.That said, they may have fucked up with the IPO, since, being a Proof of stake secured coin, the fact that the early adoptors got such large stakes, has left the currency with residual FUD (fear uncertinty and doubt), even if the early adoptors spread their stakes decently as NXT supporters aregue.I my self think NXT is the most developed crypto currency tech wise that there is right now, but one that can avoid this IPO problem or prove that is not at risk of a 51% attack by major stake holders would be even better.All this said, there might be proof that NXT is secure to that 51% based on stake ditribution and oh my goodness have I gotten derailed.
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Thank you! I will.Yeah, whether it is another altcoin or ontop of a second gen altcoin like Ethereum, NXT or Bitnation, does not fundamentally matter, it only does as far as the efficiency of transactions and the ease of application, I would say.For example, in the time that devs have been trying to build decentralized asset exchanges ontop of Bitcoin, NXT was able to build the asset exchange, decentralized encrypted messaging and an alias system. basically catching up with the development in the space and being the first to have a decentralized stock market per say.Why? because Bitcoin was arguably a high quality proof of concept that spread like health bringing beubonic plague.NXT another crypto created by an anon developer "BCNext" was much more effective as a second gen currency and seemed to learn and improve upon the lessons of Bitcoin.That said, they may have fucked up with the IPO, since, being a Proof of stake secured coin, the fact that the early adoptors got such large stakes, has left the currency with residual FUD (fear uncertinty and doubt), even if the early adoptors spread their stakes decently as NXT supporters aregue.I my self think NXT is the most developed crypto currency tech wise that there is right now, but one that can avoid this IPO problem or prove that is not at risk of a 51% attack by major stake holders would be even better.All this said, there might be proof that NXT is secure to that 51% based on stake ditribution and oh my goodness have I gotten derailed.
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I complitely agree that Bitnation has ALLOT to prove. I only linked it, because they claim to be working on such a solution.My only interest with Bitnation is the insurance side of things, as i think it could be done complitely in spite of the government, unless services can not be purchased with cash.If a website could be hosted online in a decentralized fation, like maidsafe is working on, or like one may be able to host on Ethereum. And such website could be controlled through anonymous channels, aka anon identities that build reputation like Satoshi nakamoto on the Bitcointalk forums.Than it could theoretically be run outside of legal jurisdiction.If say you are insured against (i like this example) police brutality. And you have audio or video recording of the attack, and is reasonable to prove that you were indeed attacked. And you don't have a history of pissing off cops, say, making your insurance cost low. Than why would this company not pay you your insurance due? Dues would be payed in Bitcoin or in Darkcoin for extra anonymity and users could sell it for Cash to buy what they need.The question ofcouse arises, well they could just not pay you and what will people do? well, people will write articles, and media outlets will make noice and than the reputation built by such a company would be destroyed.Reputation does not have to be tied to authentid identity, simply to an identity that consistantly proves its intentions. Built with hard work over time, destroyed in minutes if they try to cash it in an scam people.There might also be some way to do this in a decentralized fation, some kind of peer review, I don't know.Certainly a decentralized version of it proving and disproving damages to insured property would be preferable, but a centralized version could theoretically function ontop of such a network anyways, just like current insurance companies do, except without legal influence.
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Hello! fellow Philosophers. EDIT: To be perfectly clear, I do not endorse Bitnation. I only mention it as an example of people working on decentralized insurance companies among other things, Decentralized insurance or DDROs are my only interest in Bitnation right now. And it is their essense that intrigues me not the means in which they may be applied, atleast at this time. There's a topic that I've wanted to bring to your attention for a while now and I'm exited to say the time has come. I'm not sure how familiar all of you are with the Bitcoin technology, but I believe it has the power to speed hack us to a free-er society in a variety of ways. For those that are not familiar with the back end of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a long list of every transaction that has ever been made, this transactions can carry anything from information about who owns what coin, to digital files that represent things in the real world. A google maps image of your house for example can be "hashed" and turned into a unique set of digits that once added to the blockchain along side a hash of a contract signed could prove transferred ownership of the house. This ledger is distributed among computers all over the world and in multiple jurisdictions and it is updated live. For a variety of reasons that I can get into if people are skeptical, Bitcoin's technology makes fraud very very very difficult. It also allows for what have been dubbed DAO's or decentralized autonomous organizations. This simply put means that one can create a program that runs ontop of blockchain networks and can not be destroyed or ended by any one party, since there is no central point of failure. The internet would have to be shut down, to kill Bitcoin and that which is being built ontop of it. The reason I mention all this, is because there are a few projects gaining strength that may allow for what could be decentralized, jurisdiction and bureaucracy free insurance companies. And if I remember correctly, insurance companies are essentially what DROs are, according to stef's DRO theory. I'll be writing an article about this topic during the next week or so that I'll be aiming to post on Bitcoin Magazine and will be interviewing someone deeply involved in Crypto currencies and insurance. But I also wanted to get your thoughts on this subject. If we had the possibility of having insurance companies that are not subject to government power. Than can we begin to build the anarchist heaven that we have dreamt of, ontop of the internet? Here is one project in particular that claims to know how to do something like this. Though I am skeptical of many of the claims they make, bitcoin insurance seems to me very possible and within our grasp. http://www.bitnation.co/ I can elaborate more or anything if you wish. I have not looked into DRO theory in a while though, so this is part of the research for the article. My question is. If we can create insurance companies ontop of the internet, with their headquarters being a website distributed throughout the world, and with its core members being anonymous. And if we can find ways to have users of insurance prove to these organization when damage to insure property has happened, than do DRO's come to life? How is government able to control and diminish the power of insurance today and why are DROs not currently alive? What would be the limitations of such a system, given that peaceful parenting has not yet become mainstream? Thank you. I look forward to your thoughts. (PS: trying to find the right forum for this post has resulted in my posting it in 2 different sub forums here, sorry for spam)
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Hello! fellow Philosophers. EDIT: To be perfectly clear, I do not endorse Bitnation. I only mention it as an example of people working on decentralized insurance companies among other things, Decentralized insurance or DDROs are my only interest in Bitnation right now. And it is their essense that intrigues me not the means in which they may be applied, atleast at this time. There's a topic that I've wanted to bring to your attention for a while now and I'm exited to say the time has come. I'm not sure how familiar all of you are with the Bitcoin technology, but I believe it has the power to speed hack us to a free-er society in a variety of ways. For those that are not familiar with the back end of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is a long list of every transaction that has ever been made, this transactions can carry anything from information about who owns what coin, to digital files that represent things in the real world. A google maps image of your house for example can be "hashed" and turned into a unique set of digits that once added to the blockchain along side a hash of a contract signed could prove transferred ownership of the house. This ledger is distributed among computers all over the world and in multiple jurisdictions and it is updated live. For a variety of reasons that I can get into if people are skeptical, Bitcoin's technology makes fraud very very very difficult. It also allows for what have been dubbed DAO's or decentralized autonomous organizations. This simply put means that one can create a program that runs ontop of blockchain networks and can not be destroyed or ended by any one party, since there is no central point of failure. The internet would have to be shut down, to kill Bitcoin and that which is being built ontop of it. The reason I mention all this, is because there are a few projects gaining strength that may allow for what could be decentralized, jurisdiction and bureaucracy free insurance companies. And if I remember correctly, insurance companies are essentially what DROs are, according to stef's DRO theory. I'll be writing an article about this topic during the next week or so that I'll be aiming to post on Bitcoin Magazine and will be interviewing someone deeply involved in Crypto currencies and insurance. But I also wanted to get your thoughts on this subject. If we had the possibility of having insurance companies that are not subject to government power. Than can we begin to build the anarchist heaven that we have dreamt of, ontop of the internet? Here is one project in particular that claims to know how to do something like this. Though I am skeptical of many of the claims they make, bitcoin insurance seems to me very possible and within our grasp. http://www.bitnation.co/ I can elaborate more or anything if you wish. I have not looked into DRO theory in a while though, so this is part of the research for the article. My question is. If we can create insurance companies ontop of the internet, with their headquarters being a website distributed throughout the world, and with its core members being anonymous. And if we can find ways to have users of insurance prove to these organization when damage to insure property has happened, than do DRO's come to life? How is government able to control and diminish the power of insurance today and why are DROs not currently alive? What would be the limitations of such a system, given that peaceful parenting has not yet become mainstream? Thank you. I look forward to your thoughts.
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The hoodies look Awesome."Powered by rational ethics" Love it.the main dark blue is kind of creammy, i would prefer something i bit more solid. but thats atleast just my preference.
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Hi! Im juan, ive been around fdr for about 3 years now, tho i have not been too active in the forums. soon after i found fdr, i decided that i needed therapy and needed to work on my relationship with my mom and dad. Im sad to say things with my dad went very badly and i ended up moving out, i was 21 at the time. im 23 now. allot of complicated stuff has happened since than, and to make a long story short, after, now close to a year roughly of trying to make enough money to pay for therapy on a bi weekly basis atleast, im finding my self struggling.i can go into more detail about my life if people are interested, but my main question - to those in therapy and perhaps in similar economic situations as me- how are you getting therapy or how did you?im 23, i took 1 year of collage in social work in canada where i live and decided not to work in that field for the time beign, so im working part time jobs as a costumer service agent, yes ive been one of the annoying guys on calling ur phone during dinner for a survey, but ive also been the guy helping you with road side assistance. :)the second thing id like is some feedback on an idea i had to help fund my therapy. ive had a few but this one stands out the most. i want to write up a facebook post, explainig how ever messed up thing that happened to me during my childhood, like my parent's divorce, affects people statisticly, as a kind of information post. i also want to mention there that i have suffered some of these effects as a result, and that i need help paying for therapy.my birthday is soon and i know i will have lots of family exressing great joys of my birth and im thinking this is a great time to do this, ofcourse im skeptical of weather they will really live by the love for me they proclaim, and so this is in a way a test, however i hope i can get some support from them in this way.most of this family lives in colombia, so they are in a third world country, this kind of knowledge and testing of their values, is kind of like a meteor hitting their world, as a dream has adviced me months ago when i visited them, im not sure that this is good enough reason not to post this letter, however it feels relevant. ive also been working on introspection on the side for a while, but i know i need help now form a proffecional, i also dont want to go to the canadian govenrment, for some reasons i can discuss, i want an ifs therapist that is offering me an affordable price. thoughts? I appologize for the bad grammar, its a work in progres and auto correct isnt working for some reason. how have you dealt with this challange?Juan S.