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The common uninspired conclusion is: "we grow up under some kind of persistent stress, and just seek it out, because we're just conditioned to it... it's how we know how to live" --stress from relationships, stress from struggling with money... But that's missing the actual process entirely. The nature that discussion of this topic tries to capture is ESCAPE from internal stress:---Conditioned into Sympathetic Nervous System Dominance (SNS-Dominance)---The body/mind is stuck in a stress-state. It's perpetual misery. ---AH! But when someone or some EXTERNAL stress / struggle is busying one's attention, consuming one's environment, then that internal storm is drowned out. ---THIS externalizing is what is conditioned -- in childhood the problem and the solution are often the same person or situation. That's the "addiction". This "stress addiction" places the afflicted person in the EYE of his/her internal storm. Effectively "projecting" that state-of-mind / body onto another, or out into the world, in some situation. Your thoughts? ... LIKE drug addition: stress addiction is "relief" from torment. though not really relief at all, just delaying misery, and reaffirming it. UNLIKE drug addiction: the problem is the original solution. --Drugs aren't a natural reaction to emotional stress. Unless you're introduced to that sort of "relief" it doesn't come to mind. What's natural is the mind and body pointing us toward emotional projection, as a way to INVOKE THE EYE OF THE STORM (I like that!). That's this "stress addiction" phenomenon....... and perhaps a specific manifestation of this is "stockholm syndrome".

i don't want to "work" for a living at all... But I go where the money is. I think ethical dilemmas are an excuse to intellectualize the mind away from personal fears, real issues. I'm all in for LENR technology, bro. "Petrochemicals are gross." That's my ethical take on it. Just keep your hands clean, don't breathe the shit, hahaha.

If I'd shifted to a mostly vegetarian diet a year ago, then discovered a cancer; I'd think twice about the diet. I don't know anything; nor will I defend any idea in the article linked below. Just adding this curiosity to the forum. I hope Stef gets 110% better ASAP. http://www.bulletproofexec.com/steve-jobs-dr-dean-ornish-and-vegetarian-cancer/

Ron Paul Homeschool Curriculum http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-home-school-curriculum-under-attack/ “Paul’s advocacy of home-schooling is not just about getting kids out of what home-schoolers disparagingly call “government schools”. It’s not just about teaching them that government should be small and largely inconsequential. It’s based on the idea that the government is largely illegitimate, and that one must create a society in which the populace will follow “moral” (that is, biblical) laws, rather than the laws created by an overzealous, tyrannical government.” This approach is clever because it indicates a thorough understanding of the demographic of the Liberty movement and the people who have aligned themselves ideologically with Ron Paul. Most of them are avowed Atheists and hate Biblical Christianity as the internet flavor of the month. ["We see what's happening... But those atheists can't be right!!!"] It is true, but what is ironic is the vast majority of young libertarians will tell you how much they hate the fed, and big government, and even the public educational system, but they will defend the social darwinistic ideals that have been spoon fed them from their youths by public schools. Hand to mouth, shoveling information arranged and codified into our public education system by the very elitist internationists they profess to hate. This is an example of double think at it’s finest. It demonstrates that even though libertarians everywhere have totally grasped and embodied the finest principles enshrined in the Constitution they refuse to talk about, recognize or even admit that these principles exist because of the Bible and the Reformation.

To restate my question in few words: Aren't there many things we do for attention, but are usually mistaken or written-off as "seeking approval"? -- Explicit approval form others usually materializes some baggage within the attention-needing persons mind, doesn't it? -- Explicit disapproval form others does something similar? "Attention whore" fits here. Nobody says "approval whore", but don't we mistake the superficial side of so many things people do as "needing approval" rather than just "needing attention"? All the tribal activities people do is for attention within the tribe, rather thatn approval within the tribe. -- Dressing up, fitting in, "going out", "getting along", ..., ... -- Talking weather, sports, small talk, ... People feel, "don't be opinionated, or you'll be rejected from the tribe and receive no attention." -- It's not the rejection or approval or disapproval, but the attention that's primary?

I think a primary, natural motive for children is to get attention, NOT approval. -- To learn. To be defined. To have instruction and feedback on everything they're doing, seeing, etc.. For those who suffer neglect, we get older and might look like we're craving "approval" by whatever trendy, superficial bullshit people engage in... Or we feel like that's what we're doing this stuff for. Is it primarily a need for attention, not approval, and not even disapproval? -- Approval = good? A part of us might feel, "No! I don't want their approval... I don't care what people think. I don't want to be dependent on people's opinions." -- Disapproval = good? A part of us might feel, "Fine! I don't care what people think. This proves I don't need their approval. I feel good about instigating disapproval from people." I think this describes the phenomenon of "I don't take complements well." I think this describes the phenomenon of writing a daily "blog" of "facebook" of the events in your life, on the internet, for "EVERYBODY" to see... -- There's the possibility that EVERYBODY WILL SEE what's going on in my life... What I'm talking about. That's a bottomless pot of attention gold... -- Aren't all these facebookers just Attention Leprechauns? -- Seems like a living hell. I think I understand this motive people are manifesting... Or at least THAT would be my motive if I did the online, public autobiography thing. Stef's "The Dragon behind the television screen" dream analysis is at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kzo17lqjiNg&list This topic is also touched on here, "Children just want attention?" http://board.freedomainradio.com/forums/p/20738/164171.aspx#164171