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I am uncertain, and do not feel it will be wise to peddle more into it. He is like 60+ and I am 20. He does share similar notions of beliefs as mine: (libertarianism, there are many overt and subtle controls against us from birth onwards, there is and always has been a ruling elite that have been controlling us since ancient times, we are being manipulated not just memetically and phyiscally, but through more sublte things such as GMO foods, sitcoms, corporate fashion trends, etc etc). All I know is that he was in marketing when he was younger, and likes to go around and tell people ways in which they are being controlled by various facets of their external world (friends, family, media, etc).Just, the one thing I cannot really fathom is the importance in revealing 'The Vatican/Black Pope' as a very important instigator of world strife. It gets to the point where he will consider someone an agent provocateur if this information is not included or omitted. Hence, I am very curious as to this topic.. I would say that bad people are historically not universally ostracized by others. Tyrants can and have become popular enough to wield power over us. Even on a microcosm level of say, your coworker sociopath can often become popular and influence power over others in his/her sphere. I agree that child abuse in its various overt and subtle problems is a huge problem, and possibly the most important one to understand. That is where I stand currently, and you put it simply and effectively. Could you weigh in some information about the Vatican/Black Pope that you find fascinating? I am very interested. This individual I interact with does like to say, 'all roads lead to Rome' as a sort of closure after he talks about an issue of social manipulation or what conventional people would classify as 'conspiracy theory'

Does anyone here hold credence to the view that the Vatican/Jesuits are really the individuals in control of our 3d plane here on earth? Basically there are claims they have trained all secret intelligence gathering agencies (CIA, SAS, etc) throught the ages, implemented central banks, there members in important positions of power in a variety of affairs, and have orchestrated global suffering and poverty in a variety of other ways. Basically what we do know about nefarious institutions of the world (IMF, Central Banks, Multinational Corporations, governments, etc etc) are they importantly or mainly influenced by the Vatican/Jesuits (with the Black Pope at the top of command)? Here is some interesting reading: http://www.toughissues.org/whatisthegreatest.htm The reason I am asking this, is because I am having discussions with an individual who is somewhat like-minded. He holds a very important view that the -Vatican- is the source of 'all our worldly ills.' The issue I am having with this, is, I tend to think that it is largely irrelevant what the name of the 'primary source of global malevolence' (if you will) is. IE: I have shown him the 'Bomb in the Brain' documentary, which I believe is very important for understanding root causes of microcosms and macrocosms of suffering. He will turn around and say, 'yes this information is correct, but Stef fails to mention the importance of the Jesuits/Vaticans in orchestrating these things.' *He will even go so far as to say that it is suspect that Stef is omitting the Vatican/Jesuits (ie: in the NSA Snowden True News Video) although the rest of the information is correct...but the most important information (Vatican/Jesuits control the world) is not mentioned. It is true though, that Stef has not mentioned a video about the Vatican/Jesuit/Black Pope New World Order in his videos online. (But so far I am ambiguous on whether it is relevant or not). Thoughts?