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Yeah it was a great conversation, its rare for me to talk to great people like you guys !

I just realized that the video cut off !!!
Ill have to put the rest in another video sorry
Part 2: Currently its processing by the time you click on it it would most likely be complete.
Let me know your experience of the video! Thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmQYeUjfWIg&feature=youtu.be
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This is how my Macbook defines it
infantilize |ˈinfəntlˌīz, inˈfan-| verb [ withobj. ]treat (someone) as a child or in a way that denies their maturity in age or experience:seeing yourself as a victim infantilizes you.
Here is a video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJGGZS04Uus
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Yeah I'll try to find that, this only applied to gays btw I don't think anyone could explain bisexuality yet . Keep in mine I'm not an expertCould you find the information used to support the professor's claim? Because I have had issues with the nomenclature for quite a while now: Heterosexual being a desire for the opposite sex; homosexual for the same sex; bisexual for both. As individuals, we are attracted to particular characteristics in an individual. We express preference and disdain over certain practices. But by the usage of these terms shouldn't we be attracted to anyone in the corresponding group?Also, the development of sex in an individual is not binary but develops on sliding scales: http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/me-my-sex-and-i/
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Great observation
I have noticed this also with the films !
The Matrix , office space , fight club, american beauty.. all came around the same year
Well the films have a theme about breaking from the system.
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This will help manny people, I couldn't really find anything on the forums about this subject.
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A form of abuse.
I did a search and couldn't find anything .
Thanks
Ivan

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For me personally I liked it but then when I seen that some female fdr listeners felt uncomfortable it made me also feel uncomfortable.
But then people pointed out to me that the reason they feel uncomfortable is because they might feel guilty.
So then I changed my mind I was trying to control the reaction females had because I wanted more females to listen to the show but that was my own selfish thought, it had nothing to do with the truth. (managing feeling of females = managing feeling of inner mother )
I don't mind these videos because people shouldn't feel bad if they are not guilty.
And they are true observations.
When stef talks about things like race or culture it doesn't affect me because i don't identify with my culture or race, I didnt choose them.
I feel like sex is one of those you don't choose your sex. Also if you are not guilty you shouldn't feel uncomfortable.
This video is related to this post and how i felt. Oversensitive
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I think its rare. Almost impossible.
Someone is going to like the other person .
If the girl is more attractive then the guy likes her.
If the guy is more attractive then the girl likes her.
If both are unattractive then they both should like each other.
If both are attractive then they both should like each other.
If you are a friend it means you like each others company and you value their thoughts so why wouldn't you like the other person if you find them attractive?
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right i can't at the moment i might have to wait a few days
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Here is a dream i just had I'm going to try and write it down as detailed as possible before it slips my mind.
I have no idea what it means.
I was driving with my cousin and I went to the bank. I was parked probably coming from withdrawing some money i can't really recall . It was night the sun wasn't out. My side of the window was closed and my cousins side was cracked open a little bit.
All of a sudden these two guys pop up. One of the guys pops his shaved down shot gun through the window. Pointing it it at us. This is weird but i think at this moment my friend from elementary school is in the car and not my cousin any more. The guys with the gun are demanding everything and for some reason i had allot of valuable stuff in my car my backpack with my computer, my iPad (i usually have it in there for school) and some money.
I was scared and about to hand them the money and maybe the valuables if they ask. But my friend gently touched the barrel of the gun and said calm down guy we will give you everything. Something like that i can't recall but out of the corner of my eye i see a little gun in the car and i see my friend reaching for it. It was a mini revolver, comically small. My friend then shoves their gun to the side and tries to reach for the gun but can't.
This is when the guys should have killed us but then i take out a silver desert eagle its felt very heavy in my had. I shoot the guy with the gun about 4-5 time i can't recall then i shoot the other guy but he is running away, i think i missed. All of a sudden i see a bunch of peoples faces. They are looking at me like a criminal and look disappointed. This is when i say we need to get the fuck out of here and drive off taking some suburban streets, into this rotten broken down home or warehouse. I feel scared because i was driving my moms car and i knew they would come after my mom.I felt scared at the criticism. But i don't care much because it just happened there is nothing i can do.
Mini revolver http://whichgun.com/img/blog-posts/california-women-confuses-naa-mini-revolver-with-cigarette-lighter/naa-mini-revolver.jpg
Desert eagle http://www.special-ops.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/IMI-Desert-Eagle-pistol.jpg
Sawed of shotgun http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080916232726/fallout/images/a/a1/FO3_sawed-off_shotgun.JPG
Im not a gun person but for some reason these guns popped up in my head
I never killed anyone in my dreams either, I'm never a bad ass or anything this is why this dream seems important to me.
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what is the perfect size
Sorry I forgot to provide those details
Here is a link with the size in pixels https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2972003?hl=en
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If you are interested in designing a cool Cover art for my youtube channel Ill give $15 if I like what you did and use it for my channel.
Guidelines
-The ART to be the perfect size
-Self-Knowlege themed , empathy, tenderness, and truth
-Simplicity and Quality
Also it would help if you know what i talk about,
a recurring theme is isolation and introversion but that isn't what i want to focus on
I talk about childhood and how it affected me as a person. I open up allot.
Feel free to watch some of the videos i think it would help in getting ideas on what to design
Here is my current art : https://www.youtube.com/user/selfknowledgebot/feed
Size of ART: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2972003?hl=en
I will pay with pay pal, I don't have bit coin.

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I think the point of the Justin B videos are to show the jealousy and general hate.
I don't think most people think he is a saint.
Getting cought up in the logical consistency to me is missing the point of the videos.
I don't think stef made the videos to defend a pop star.
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I read the whole thing and I want to say that I really feel you even though I'm not in that situation.
Its a really hard one because you don't really want to interact with your brother but its also hard to reject him.
It seems like he is bullying you with the fact that you don't want to reject him.
Also one thing that i want to point out from the text i don't know exactly all the details but I have to ask why can't you tell your brother no or why can't your husband tell your brother that he doesn't like the way he is treating you. "Around me you respect her we had plans and we are being nice by letting you in so don't be rude to her"
Its really a hard situation just know that even if it goes "bad" you will have something to reflect on.
I think your husband is correct in a sense to say lets see what happens and we will act accordingly next time.Like setting boundaries or whatever needs to be done so you don't feel this way.
I really hope that in the future you don't have to be in situations like this.
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Can I use your question for one of my videos?
Go for it!
It wasn't a question just me sharing experience but that would be cool if you talk about it.

I don't mean it's an intentional test on the girl's part, I mean that's how I perceive it now since she never attempted any deeper conversation.
You remind me of Alessandro Juliani in your profile photo. I'm a huge fan of his acting work.

Right, thanks for clearing it up. I think there are women out there that can have semi deep conversations they don't have to open themselves up on the internet but at least right more than one word.
Hahah people always tell me i remind them of someone and every time its completely different people.

If I were getting this message, I might have a small amount of curiosity, but there would be no place for me to enter the conversation.
Lets say someone is interested in philosophy on their profile. How you responded it would sound something like:
"Hi, my name is Ivan and I like that your profile says philosophy on it. I wold like to get to know you better."
What I see is a very depersonalized statement of "about your profile" rather than "about you". Also, I would highly suggest asking a question as it shows you are really interested in them and then you don't need to say it.
I would say something closer to:
"Hey, I was just reading your profile and noticed you are interested in philosophy. I am a fan of philosophy and really enjoy exploring these kinds of ideas with people. What concepts or people in philosophy are of interest to you?"
To me, this says "I am interested in you, not your profile. Here is a little bit about me so that you don't feel like the only one who is sharing information, plus sharing this bit with me will probably be enjoyable because I enjoy it when I talk with others. Then, here is a question of curiosity about one of your interests which makes it very easy to enter the conversation and shows my genuine interest in you as a person."
When I did online dating, it was not relegated to vague and shallow concepts. Sure, it would be somewhat at first only because you don't want to rip your heart out to complete strangers and a certain kind of mutual assurance that the other is not a creeper is needed, but it doesn't need to stay that way.
I am seeing that your messages seemed to be vague and lacking the curiosity needed for the deeper connection, which may have contributed to some of the feelings of shallowness and vagueness when trying to date online.
In general, questions and genuine curiosity are a great way to get people to talk about themselves and to start the venture toward connection and depth.
Right i see what you are saying it seems all to make sense especial about the generic message i would send.
Its not all that bad because some girls would message me with one word only.
But if my message is shallow it would be more likely to attract those types. At the time i thought it wast but now that you point it out it kinda seems that way.
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I think saying "I would like to get to know you better" is a bit redundant - because why else were you messaging?
Women are emotional communicators and read between the lines - "I would like to know you better" reads like "i would like to date you" to many women
something like "lets talk soon" is more casual etc.
these are just my suggestions
Right, that makes sense, well i didnt say that all the time but thats interesting i never really looked at it that way .
I tried different approaches. Ill try something less generic and redundant.

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Have you tried journaling about why you (want) do that?
No
I thought about it allot, i have a theory.
You could break all the rules, like writing in all the margins, writing sideways, doing a journal that is told completely through drawings. Whatever feels constraining, break it! A journaling revolution!

Thanks, Im going to try the drawing, i journal on my iPad and laptop maybe that is constraining.
But I'm going to start a new notebook journal and add drawings
Thanks for the reply
What it has been helpful for me is to make notes along the day instead of doing a single entry in the journal.
I find difficult to sit and think what I am going to write because there is a tendency of altering my perception when writting it down. As you said, trying to make it clear for others or trying to convience myself of preconceptions set up by people who is around me.
Also, I do try to do it outside my home because it changes the incoming stimuli, and I do pen and paper. E-journaling for me doesn't work since I'm not by my computer all day and does't look as personalized since is not my handwriting.
Just try with little notes as the day goes by and revise at the end of the day if it woked for you.I actually thought about that I think you are correct about my environment i need to get away !
I feel paralyzed sometimes, joint to a Starbucks or a park is hard.
Also i feel like taking notes throughout the day is smarter because you get to write down things in the moment
you don't really have to think hard about what to write since its not to far away.
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@Ivan, how did these correspondences go with the women you were interested in? I know that online dating can be very difficult for virtuous women as they get messaged constantly with weird things and propositions for sex and other things and it can be very difficult to sort through the mess for the reasonable people. If I can take a look at a sample of what the initial contact may have read like, then it might be able to be improved in some way to increase your odds for future dating.
Thanks for your tips!
The usual message that i would send would be something like Hi my name is Ivan, I like **** about your profile. "then i would say i would like to know them better"
I think he made some statements I agree with regarding your smile appearing not genuine in this photo and your hair appearing non-fashionable. The smile would be more important than the hair in my opinion, Einstein didn't have fashionable hair either. It is odd but I believe you want a photo to be how you would look when interacting with the person you intend to date, which is difficult because you have to pretend that is happening when it isn't. If you have a social circle it might be useful to get a candid photograph of yourself genuinely smiling.
Was your plan to talk with women for a long time online or were you arranging dates in person?
Yeah I didnt use this picture for the dating site i had about pictures some that other people took. I had better pictures, i usually style my hair when its longer this is a recent picture when i just got a buzz cut.
Yes i did want to arrange dates asap because i don't like too much online chatting.
Wanna give you props, Ivan. Very cool what you're doing and progressing.
Thanks for your support : )
Ignore the trolls!
It might be worth sitting down and trying to identify the things that are keeping you from a relationship. It might just be exposure to the right kinds of people.
If what you're currently doing isn't working, do something different. It's taken me way too long to take that seriously.
Yeah whenever i make myself vulnerable i get attacked.
I think your right on the exposure to the right people and doing something different. I just recently started asking girls out that I'm actually interested in , before i use to ask girls who i knew i wouldn't get rejected.
Thanks for the reply
I personally see nothing wrong with your photo at all, Ivan. There is nothing in it that would put me off, and I expect that goes for many other women as well. Obviously your photo would put off some people, but that is only because of subjective tastes in that regard.
My advice would be to just be who you are. I personally could care less about what is currently "fashionable". I would rather find traits of intelligence and compassion in a potential mate than a "fashionable" haircut and a confident manner. I am not the only woman in existence who thinks this, I'm sure.
The odds are not spectacular in terms of finding a non-religious, philosophically-interested, psychology-interested, attractive, healthy woman who also happens to be available. But they do exist. You just have to expect that it is going to take a lot more effort to find one and interest one. Don't be discouraged!
(And I would personally recommend befriending women in real-life and online in philosophy/psychology forums.)
Thanks, yeah i feel the same way i know its going to be hard to find a rational girl but I'm trying !
I don't like the online thing i feel like its 0.01% chance of finding someone rational online.
When i think about it those interest don't really matter i think the most important thing is to find someone with self-knowledge and rationality.
Religion is mostly cultural most people are just conforming. If they could think you could probably talk them out of it.
Yeah I tried online dating as well. Okcupid in particular. I had the same experience of vague responses, one girl kept sending me one word answers including smiley faces and so on, so I ended up carrying the whole conversation on my shoulders. I didn't realize it at the time, but now I look back and see that almost like a test. This girl was checking to see if I would respond in a way that she was familiar and comfortable with. (Is this guy ok with cutesy short messages that lack depth?) When you are feeling confused or distracted or just plain uncomfortable, I think that is a good sign that something weird is going on.
On reflection, online dating seems counter intuitive. The point of it is to connect with people that share your interests but it doesn't really work because that stuff isn't that important. Whether someone likes the same music or books as you do says little about their actual personality. You can get some information based on what they write in their profile or the kinds of messages they send you, but you get so much more in person.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
No kidding, I don't like to think about it lol. (not that the odds are much better for you women)
This is the reason why i don't like chatting online, online dating should be a place that helps people meet
and where they could meet in person. I don't agree with the vague messages i can't stand it ! I don't think its a test.
I want dept in my relationships and if they can't keep a conversation i doubt they can keep a serious relationship.
Try OKCupid instead. POF is a joke.
Thanks ill check it out if i ever decide to do online dating again.
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Can you make sense of his posts ? I got the feeling he is just trying to put me downWow. That escalated quickly.
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Simon The Boxer is an example Stef uses in Real-Time Relationships to illustrate the principles behind recurring dysfunctional behaviour. I have, in fact, explained the basic theory in my post but I think it's a good idea to read the original starting on page 80 of the free PDF.
Thanks i read that page and it cleared things up. It was very detailed.

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I chose those numbers simply to demonstrate that you get a false/incoherent answer when you separate otherwise correct answers from their proper formula.
Huh? You are misunderstanding the rules of logic.
First of all, Q is not a conclusion. It is a operand, like P. (And the same goes for my examples above.)
Secondly, I'm afraid you're misunderstanding the use of the truth table in this circumstance. You cannot get a "true conclusion with a bad argument format". That would be illogical.
Let me try to explain what I think is confusing you. In the circumstance of logical implication (modus ponens), when p is not satisfied, the truth of "p—>q" remains intact, regardless of whether q is satisfied or not. For example, if we let p represent "it is raining outside" and q represent "you will get wet if go outside without an umbrella", then just because it is not raining outside right now does not prove either:
a) that you will not get wet if you go outside without an umbrella, for a reason other than rain,
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b) that if it were to start raining, you wouldn't get wet if you went outside without an umbrella.
The truth value of "p—>q" remains, even when it is not raining, and when you wouldn't get wet if you went outside without an umbrella. Do you see, now? Because if it were raining, then you would get wet if you went outside without an umbrella.
That was my point. That "you must not use force" is a command, without truth value, for example. It only has truth value in context of the correct goal. So, for example:
"To be a pacifist, you must not use force."
An example of where it would be logically correct to use force:
"To assassinate the Teletubby named Tinky Winky, you must use force."
Ok i understand what you said I'm just a little confused in the middle with the P -> Q.
But thats ok, I feel like the conversation got of topic and too complex.
Frankly im to tired to keep up with it.
Group conversation on infantilization
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Wow !
Thanks for posting this, I feel lots of anger towards this video because its a true interpretation of my mother.
Well the disney version