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These pictures are a joke here right now and pretty much anyone who opposes draft is a crybaby. Facebook is full of shit like this https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204550078735237&set=a.1091725696645.2013681.1331607874&type=1&theater (it says broken nail).. My own father is very concerned that Russia will attack Lithuania and NATO will do nothing, yet he thinks it would be very good for me to join the military. I'm on a draft list aswell and I gotta say being on a receiving end of shit like this is an eye opener. I'm done with making excuses for people promoting state violence. This whole thing makes me literally sick.

Duuuude, I have exactly the same problem. I was about to make a post titled "decision making perfectionism". This happens with every decision with no clear best option. I think it's worse for me though. I find it very hard to do anything else except think about my choices when I have a dilemma like that on my mind. It makes me very unproductive and unable to relax without drugs. Please share with me anything useful that you'll find, thanks.

Recently I've been having a lot of trouble making decisions. I come up with problems to which logic and evidence don't provide a clear answer for and I feel paralised. For example recently I've been thinking whether I should make effort to meet people. On one hand I would like to make friends, but on the other hand I'm not interested in having small talk and I feel like it is a waste of time, because most of the time it just ends in an akward silence and i don't get to know them anyway. At this point I'm thinking that the logical thing to do is to act on my gut feeling in every situation, but that doesn't satisfy me. I can't trust my feelings... For me trusting my feelings looks religious. A lot of people say they feel god in their heart and shit like that.. So I end up in this position where I can't come up with an answer using logic and I won't accept anything else. I get really manic about it and sometimes can't focus on anything else. I don't have money for therapy so it is up to me to solve this. Could anyone suggest what I should look into?

Hello, I recently moved to Vilnius to study computer science and I would love to make some friends from this community. Having an honest relationship is a new concept for me. As I listened to Stefan and started thinking about it, I became less and less happy with my current relationships. I am at the point now where I can't be bothered to meet random people anymore, and if I can't find anyone in Vilnius I will look for some online friends. I think that could be good as well. Wish me luck.

I don't see how I have to give up honesty and integrity, could you explain that? Stef doesn't explain it either. He says that these people are evil to which he provides evidence and to which I agree. And then he says that if you socialize with evil people philosophy is just a hobby for you. To which he doesn't provide any evidence. I think he assumes it's obvious, but it is not for me. So far everyone in this thread just made the same statement that Stef made without showing the logic behind it.

How do you come to that conclusion? If you say I prefer friends/conformity over virtue than point out exactly which virtues I have to give up in order to hang with them? Note that I don't have to initiate force/vote/support their beliefs/respect their opinion by hanging out with them. I get together with them and drink beer/go camping/tell jokes.

I think we got to the core of my problem here... I don't see the point to ostracise in this case. Ostracising people who can think is not necessary and ostracising people who cannot think doesn't make any difference anyway. Could you explain me why you think ostracising in this case is valuable? I understand. Their beliefs are evil. I can't do anything about it though. If they can't think, ostracising them won't help. I need someone to socialize with and I am used to their evil beliefs. Why not hang with them? Thank you for your patience.

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. I'm not talking about valuing thoughts and opinions of these people, I'm just talking about hanging out with them. I think probably what Stef meant in that video was also actually being friends with these people. I understand that's uncompatible with valuing freedom.

Yeah that is incorrect, I asked only people who are politically vocal (around 20 people), with some people politics just never comes up.. But the ones I ask answer without hesitation that they would put me to jail because anarchy equals wall street owning everything and enslaving us all (or something like that). I get the dieting example. By eating the cake you do the opposite of what the diet tells you, therefore you're full of shit. I don't see how that applies to the second example. It doesn't seem to me that hanging with Hitler is the opposite of being voluntaryist. I don't see how hanging out with anyone has anything to do with voluntaryism. Could you expand on the part I highlighted? This is all very counter intuitive to me. I certainly wouldn't hang with hitler or racists because I wouldn't be able to ignore their beliefs and I just wouldn't enjoy my time with them. But I am used to being around statists and I can ignore their evil beliefs. I just don't understand how that makes voluntaryism just a hobby for me.

I don't understand that. It's not like I have to swear an oath to the state before hanging with statists. I don't see how hanging out with a statist replaces my principles

To be honest if you asked me before I watched that video I would have said it's fucked up. But after I watched it I started thinking about it and couldn't come up with a reason why it's bad.

How am i subsidising bad behavior? Yeah he doesnt lose anything, but if I disasociate from the racist he will be just as racist anyway. Me hanging with him doesn't have anything to do with his racist views. In fact if he's surrounded with racists I might be the only anti racist voice in his environment which might eventually change his mind.

Hi, I've been thinking a lot about the new Stefan's video about the against me argument. I'm having trouble connecting the "hanging with statists" part with the "philosophy is just a hobby for you" part. I didn't hear him explaining the relationship between the two. Maybe it's supposed to be obvious, but it's not for me. Everyone I know wants me thrown in jail for disagreeing with them because they think that otherwise theres anarchy and the world will end. That is a very understandable position. It doesn't mean they have anything against me, it just means they doesn't want the world to end. I will go far enough to say that I don't see how hanging with racists means you're not really anti racist. If you're constantly standing up for discriminated races, protesting, donating money, time for the cause and then go hang with a racist, how does that make you fake anti racist?

Hey, Im in Glasgow. Totally would be up for meetup