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Ban free speech! Who's with me?! Anyone? No? ... Wait, that's a fundamental human right? No one told me, do you think the femnazis know this?

Hey CriticalG I have followed your youtube channel for some time, you have some really good videos. This is essentially Poe's law in effect, feminism exists in such extreme variants that it's not possible to distinguish between the extremists and a parody of the extremists. When you have prominent feminists featured in feminist literature as saying that all men should be castrated, it's no longer clear if that's an extreme view or simply a parody of feminism. It's often problematic for parody such as yours because inevitably there's always some people who believe it's actually real simply because the extremist behaviour has become so normalized.

The asymmetry in choice mirrors the asymmetry in reproductive biology. An egg is worth more than sperm, the mother is inconvenienced far more by child birth than the father is. Because the burden of child birth is a very big risk for the female they need to be very picky about finding the right male to be a father to their children, compared to males who can inseminate and run with many partners with little or no cost. Evolution did a good job of baking these predisposed behaviours into our biology, survival of the fittest, which ever genetic markers are responsible for predisposed behaviour that increase the spread of genes are the ones that survive to be passed on, that means men are biologically predisposed to spread their seed among as many women as possible and women are predisposed to being picky about who they copulate with. Most of the evidence strongly leans towards men approaching women and asking women out, women usually are on the receiving end of multiple offers and they get to pick between them, It's just a fact of life. It's also why I'm not a huge fan of the dating game and why I rarely ask women out, the whole thing feels more like a rat race for men where the woman settles for whoever they think is best their biology can buy them, nothing I really want to be a part of quite honestly and partly why I'm a MGTOW.

I'm sorry to hear you went through such a horrible childhood, no one should have to suffer through that. If you feel the need to open up and discuss these issues it might be worth seeing a therapist, it would be a good idea to understand if this has caused any long term damage, it's bad enough that you have to live through the trauma but you don't want to suffer long term effects of it, that's something that if you need to, you can look at dealing with. I know most of the FDR members are willing to listen and offer advise if you ever need a place to vent or talk about your feelings.

The problem is that freedom is not particularly great anywhere right now, I'm kind of tempted to sign up for the Free State Project and look at getting US Citizenship but I have reservations about living in the US, they were once very free but the government is getting bad very quickly.

It's perfectly fine as an economical term, in very real economics of the body things like nutrients and energy are a cost the host has to field, as well as the cost of reduced mobility and vulnerability to elements and predators, and so on. I think you're equivocating here, there's 2 senses in which you can use the word expense, one as a purely economical term, more or less synonymous with "cost" which in a pure biological sense I find extremely hard to imagine how anyone would disagree with this. The other sense has more negative connotations as is relates to causing harm at the expense of someone, defined as: http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/expense Exhalation sounds silly as a expense/cost because it doesn't really cost you anything, nothing that's of value to your body anyway, in fact it's desirable to exhale carbon dioxide, for example if there was another life form in your lungs that absorbed carbon dioxide you'd consider that a symbiotic relationship rather than a parasitical one, because it's actually doing you a favour. To address ejaculation as an expense, sure it is, not much of an expense, but it does cost your body something to produce.

I'm considering it, I consider myself a Man Going His Own Way (MGTOW) and in the UK the minimum child support payments for an adult earning an livable wage is about £50,000 over 18 years. I'm not risking paying that and I'm absolutely positive I do not want children. Even if that stance changed I certainly wouldn't want to bring another child into a world I don't consider very moral, full of debt and aggression, I'd consider raising a child who badly needs a home and was already born into a bad situation who needed out. The fact is that if you change your mind you have the opportunity to adopt, you can have the procedure reversed although it's expensive and not 100% guaranteed, you can also have some sperm frozen before having it done. It's becoming essential that men take control of their reproductive rights in the 21st century, most of the child suffering in the 1st world is coming from horrible broken homes and we basically need to be more careful what happens with our sperm in future, we cannot just leave it up to women to be responsible for their own birth control because we know that many are irresponsible or reckless.

Definitions are everything. I have no really strong technical understanding of what a parasite is, only a sort of colloquial understanding, so I simply went to google dictionary and found this: It seems to fit that definition perfectly well. The term parasite has negative connotations to it so maybe that's why Stefan was shocked, although I have to say that he often cuts through the language barrier by being blunt to callers on the call in show, so it's rather surprising to see him dishing it out frequently but then being shocked himself to hear it. I'd be careful what you infer from the parasite definition, you're playing a bit of a word game if you're using the term parasite to justify certain actions against the child or mother, for example I'd be super skeptical about any propositions that started "It's just a parasite therefore..."

This is just another radfem invention which attempts to convince people there's a link between peoples attitude towards rape and the actual incidence of it in society. You can rarely reason with feminists on this issue because to discuss this topic and not be completely in agreement with them is often labelled as rape apology, it's a sickening tactic which thankfully doesn't work with most rational people. If you can get into a rational debate with a feminist over this, it's best to argue in the same way it's best to argue everything else, simply ask them to back up their assertion that rape culture leads to a greater incidence of rape, ask for peer reviewed scientific studies.

My 2nd to last relationship was quite bad, I found myself infatuated with someone who i thought was perfect for me (rare because I have quite specific tastes) and wanted to make an effort to make things work, but she didn't really put in the same kind of effort, very much felt like she knew she could do better, so it was a very asymetrical relationship, I'd always make time to be there for her and she'd throw me a bone once in a while and occasionally make time for me, it ended badly after essentially I became a doormat. I'm usually quite rational but when the emotion of a relationship kicks in I find it exceedingly hard to remain on point. Anyway I just ended my last relationship which was only a few months in, I started seeing the same behaviour, I'd ask her to make some time for me now and again and she'd say maybe tomorrow, tonight I'm doing something with friends, which is fine if she doesn't want to commit early on, but then when I'd say the same thing she'd get all pissed off an holier than thou. I could just see the same thing happening again, she expects me to be there at her beck and call but then thinks it's OK for her to basically put me off for indeterminate amounts of time. Didn't want to get hurt again so just called it off, she wasn't even prepared to acknowledged the asymmetric behaviour much less apologise for it, time to move on. Can someone do a me a solid and give me a sanity check, not all women are like this right? I don't think I encourage this behaviour, as far as I can tell I don't come across as a pushover, maybe it's just a string of bad luck.

I like, and agree with pretty much all of Kevin's points. Gender used to mean sex, but seems to be transitioning into meaning the social and cultural identities of an individual, I've always accepted this distinction because I do observe a trend for social differences between males and females which near as I can tell stems from biological differences. Recently facebook added a massive number of choices to their gender selection, it's something that's getting a bit out of control to be honest. Classification like this is usually done to make life more convenient, to the degree we do it is the degree that it's helpful, having something like 200 gender identities to remember with little practical difference between them is pointless. The cynical side of me thinks that they mostly come from this new age internet born culture of social justice warriors, their natural habitat is Tumblr where everyone strives to be as unique as possible, this is where we see a lot of these terms born and parroted into popular culture. I'm going to go out on a limb with some purely anecdotal observations and opinions, I don't claim any of this as fact - If you look at the culture it spawns from you get a good idea of why it exists, these are people that are often deeply unhappy with how they feel and how society treats them. The SJW like to label their differences and then demand other people acknowledge them, these are the people responsible for popularizing terms like "thin privilege", "genderfluid", "ableism" and a lot of other nonsense. They're essentially thought police who think that if they condition everyone else in the world to change how they think they'll feel better about their own differences, the first step is to label everything so it can be manipulated. I find it all very hard to take seriously, if you want a humorous take on all of this, I recommend Internet Aristocrat on youtube, he has a series on Tumblrisms which is quite funny - https://www.youtube.com/user/InternetAristocrat

It doesn't sound like you're having trouble justifying it to yourself, you know why you do it, you need sexual release in addition to what your relationship provides. It sounds like you have been influenced to think that it's wrong by others around you, maybe your parents, your peers or the church, they are all common culprits. Morally there's nothing wrong with it, it's perfectly normal and healthy both in and outside of a relationship. The main hurdles are handling how it makes your partner feel, it's something you ought to discuss with your partner like adults, it's likely that secrecy about this and the shock of catching you is just as much of the problem as doing it in the first place, once it's out in the open it should be a relatively easy problem to solve, as long as you have an understanding partner.

There's some dreadful stories on AVfM by MGTOWs and other people who have been on the receiving end of violence and even rape, one recent article had the police telling a man who was the subject of rape that men cannot be raped and that filing a false rape claim would land him prosecuted for wasting police time. Not only is violence against men ignored as a problem, not only has it become impossible to seek justice for, but what really rustles my jimmies is that it's seen as comical. One famous example is in women's daytime TV where they laugh and make fun of a guy who's wife cuts off his penis - They're actually forced through complaints to apologize on air and they don't take it seriously or do it with any sincerity. Now imagine if this was an opposite story about how a man cut off both his wifes tits and then on a male talk show a bunch of men stood around laughing about it and joking. There's not much more of a striking example of how society see's violence against men and women differently.

My opinion is that the title is functionally fine. This whole debate for me seems to be analogous to this new wave of "triggering" we've seen in feminist dialogue, some people seem to be upset by arbitrarily gentle wording and are demanding trigger warnings in popular discourse and science papers among other things. It's simply a matter of practicality that we draw a line somewhere and say its unreasonable to change language because some fringe group is upset by words or interpret them in some way that the masses don't, primarily because you'll always find someone who is upset by the most gentle of language and always misinterprets the most clear language. That's not meant to be insulting, this is point of view that's primarily concerned with practicality over anything else.

There's an increasing number of articles which are either anti-MRM or show the MRM in a bad light, leading up the conference this month. Its almost all ignorance.

Depends on the audience. Most smart people do not debate idiots in order to convince them out of their ridiculous position, it's sort of a given that logic doesn't work on a lot of these people. You debate for the audience to convince the people on the fence into your camp, or even sometimes people from the opposing camp if you're good.

The religious. Most of the time statists just haven't thought things through, have been convinced by propaganda and false information or bad/bias studies, or merely adopted the same political opinion as their family or peers. However very often the religious are just blindly religious, some of them believe purely on faith, they believe that faith is a virtue and some even believe that it would be a bad thing to find evidence of god because believing or knowing because of evidence removes their chance to show their blind faith. You cannot fight that, there is no logical argument and nothing you can do to move someone from that position, in fact any attempt to just reaffirms their belief that god is needed, I genuinely believe that it's about as broken as a person/mind can get, once you've truly abandoned logical and critical thinking and belief faith is a virtue you're beyond any help. Statists believe in a lot of stupid nonsense but most of them don't have faith in their political ideology, they have basic ability to think and process logic they just apply it badly, at least they have the tools necessary for you to reason with them.

I've just watched the video in the OP and can't believe what I'm hearing, not only do they support lying and tricking men but they applaud and cheer it, it's completely disgusting. Then, without skipping a beat they move straight on to how spanking is good and you should spank your 2 year old children, they claim that they were spanked and turned out fine...well if you think lying is "turned out fine" then I guess you would support spanking, this whole thing disgusts me.

$20k of the $25k in about 24 hours, thanks so much to those who donated, looks like they'll easily make the target. This is what happens when people stick up for freedom of speech and the rights of the marginalized. I'm so proud that this wasn't a struggle and so many decent people stood up for this. Solidarity has never felt better.

It's like a bad superhero film. The feminists in being so extreme in their fight, they become the very evil they're trying to stop. The conference among many things deals with the issue of violence and censorship, and the feminists are trying to stop this conference by attempting censorship through violence. You couldn't write a better evil villain character if you tried.

OK they have a donation page up, they're seeking $25,000 which is a hefty chunk of change, I'm really saddened that a simple phone call from feminists can cause this kind of damage for what will likely turn out to be just trolling and empty threats, still it's a requirement and I think it's a good cause - https://fundanything.com/en/campaigns/campaign-for-free-speech

Well it would be a good thing, if that was demonstrated to be true, I don't think anyone has made a good case for MGTOWs being statists, they stand for individual freedom above everything else. Most of he issues that MGTOW have with society are down to the control the state has over divorce, family courts and other institutions that make marriage, long term relationships and fatherhood toxic to men. It's certainly true to say that even those who are statists are just misguided, that MGTOW more than anyone have good reason and investment in dismantling the state and gender bias laws and courts, becuase they feel oppressed by the state. Along with the MRM in general they make a great target to spread libertarian principles to, because they'll likely have a predisposition to support absorbing them principles.

Go back and question a lot of your beliefs and why you hold them, one thing that's very helpful is to have a coherent world view that makes sense and you can use to guide your actions. Many people that "wake up" are shocked to learn something they profoundly believed was simply false, but odds are if you believed one thing without good reason that you believe some other things without good reason as well.

Death threats are a sign of desperation, they're not a good thing but they're a signal that a positive change is being made.

Being scared is good it means you understand the reality of being independent, and sure things will go wrong, that's how we learn to do things right in the long run. That fear will go away as you learn to cope and pull yourself up off the bottom rung of the economic ladder and get some stability, that happens super fast if you work hard. Still, it makes sense to do some finances and plan ahead, you need to cover all your basics (rent, food and other consumables, with some left over to save) if you do the maths on this and you cannot afford all the basics I'd highly advise against moving out if you can avoid it. Accommodation is one of the most expensive parts of living and so if you can share a place with friends or rent a single room in someones house rather than paying for your own flat then that will help save a lot of money. The advice Shirgall gave is a good rule of thumb, aim for your accommodation to be no more than 1/3 to about 1/2 of your earnings, mine was just under 1/2 when I moved out on my own and I got by for a year or so before I climbed the corporate ladder.