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  1. The problem with the fair tax is that without a constitutional amendment we won't be able to prevent the congress from passing a new income tax. So eventually we will just wind up with both a giant national sales tax and an income tax.

    Yes, I kind of assumed a constitutional amendment abolishing the income tax was implied.

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    isnt there something to the actual sound of the word though. I think i once heard the audible shape of the noise alone can evoke an emotional response. it is like a sharp and short jab.

    fwiw the past tense of "to be" in Arabic sounds a lot like it. Maybe they hate us not for our freedom but because their language sounds evoke anger... <--not at all serious ;)

  3. On the downside, if they were able to tax every step of the supply chain every product would be loaded with taxes.  I.e., a sales tax on the steel when the screw manufacture buys it, a tax on the screw when the sub-assembler buys it, a tax on the sub-assembly when the engine manufacturer buys it, onward until the car you buy is 90% tax.

     

    The FairTax is a single-rate, federal retail sales tax collected only once, at the final point of purchase of new goods and services for personal consumption. Used items are not taxed. Business-to-business purchases for the production of goods and services are not taxed. A prebate makes the effective rate progressive.

     

    http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=FAQs

    Good info. He was saying mostly the same stuff I was thinking except I didn't realize that some people would get more back in the "prebate" than they pay in taxes. And his conclusion is spot on, the problem is out of control gov spending much more than how they collect the money.

  4. If you mean in the context of calling your "representative," then I'd say yes.

    I was thinking more along the lines of talking to statist acquaintances.

     

    Perhaps I could just use it as a conversation starter to point out the immorality of taxation and the corruption of the irs

  5. The name is an oxymoron imo but FairerTax.org just doesn't have the same ring to it.

     

    Apparently the Fair Tax is coming up for a committee vote in the US house. Basic idea behind it is a flat sales tax and abolition of the IRS. I advocated for this before I came to be an anarchist and I'm wondering what other FDR members think of it.

     

    Abolishing the IRS would serve to severely limit government power and the ability to give out sweetheart tax breaks to the well connected. I feel like that's the reason it will never happen. I've heard people call this a voluntary tax, but there will certainly be government violence enforcing it.

     

    Is it hypocritical to ask for more gentle assrape from our overlords? Maybe it's simply a waste of time?

  6. Most obvious based on your experience? Because if he's aware that you accept that the military is evil, you'd be the last person he'd want to talk to about it.

     

    I personally wouldn't even submit to such an interview. I don't think it would be immoral if he was disqualified by way of you divulging the truth. Obviously it would be better to make the case to him directly and for him to choose morally. I think that just submitting to such an interview would be legitimizing their immorality in a way I'm not comfortable with.

    Yeah, I think he might dislike a lot of the same things I disliked about it. He's in touch with a recruiter who obviously is going to suggest joining the military. It's common sense to consider what you might not like about the career with an 8 year commitment and to expect the recruiter to not talk about those things.

     

    Yes again I agree WRT interview, only reason I'd do it is to keep him from getting the job. I'd agree with you about approaching him directly and maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it seems clear to me he doesn't want to talk about it. I'm assuming from this lack of communication that he desires none. If ever I had advice to offer, this would probably be it. He knows that and he choose to keep me out of the decision process. He's already "sworn in" so I think there's supposed to be no turning back now.

  7. ...and he didn't even tell me.

     

    So it's my wife's brother and we're fairly close (or I thought so). I just heard from someone else that he signed up for the army and I'm aghast. Partly at the fact that I think the military is immoral and partly at the fact that he never mentioned it to me.

     

    He's in his early 20s, I'm about 10 yrs older and I was in the military. I got out a few years back because I realized it was evil although I have only in the past couple months been introduced to anarchy and started talking about how taxation is theft.

     

    Since I'd rate myself as the most obvious person in his life to talk to about this and he didn't I'm assuming our relationship means basically nothing to him.

     

    I'm not crazy for skipping family dinner tonight, right?

     

    I think he's going for a job with a clearance in which case I may get interviewed by gov types. Would it be wrong to try to get him disqualified from the job? He was physically abused by a religious authority type over an extended period and I honestly think he shouldn't join even if the military were somehow a moral entity.

  8. I just read the lyrics to "Young Men Dead" for the first time, powerful song.

     

     

    Fire for the hills pick up your feet and lets go.
    Head for the hills pick up steel on your way.
    And when you find a piece of them in your site,
    fire at will, don't you waste no time.

    Another thought of the unaware,
    addiction in disguise.

    With a drop of blood,
    you will take them out, for me.

    Fire from the hills pick up speed and lets go.
    Fire for real, yeah shoot to kill with no aim.
    Head for the hills, yes eyes on the camp fire glow.
    Creep up there like a white mink hiding in snow.

    And outta black a figure forms a soldier in the sky.
    With a drop of love, trying to set you free.

    Run for the hills, pick up your feet and lets go.
    We did our jobs, pick up speed now lets move.
    The trees cant grow without the sun in their eyes.
    And we can't live if we're too afraid to die.

    Hold on tight, yes hold on tight you're too slow.
    Fire at the breeze that blows these thoughts through our mind.
    Hire only thieves to steal the thoughts from our heads.

     

    My thoughts:

    The theme seems to be a clear critique of war and how old men start wars that the young men fight.

    "With a drop of blood,
    you will take them out, for me."

    Killing is good when you're ordered to do it.

     

    "With a drop of love we will set you free"

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    "The trees cant grow without the sun in their eyes.
    And we can't live if we're too afraid to die."

    Don't fall prey to fearmongering. "They who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -Ben Franklin

     

    "Fire at the breeze that blows these thoughts through our mind."

    Resist Propaganda

    "Hire only thieves to steal the thoughts from our heads"

    Politicians...

  9. and I decided to look at the comments before starting the video.

     

    There's your problem. Youtube comments are notoriously idiotic and deserve as much of your attention as messages scribbled on the wall of a bathroom stall. You value Stefan's opinion more than some random on youtube, right? So just remember his time is valuable too and he will end the conversation if he thinks it is unproductive.

  10. http://youtu.be/ZxlqZBBttxg

     

    All aboard! Ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa!Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay, Ay, AyCrazy, but that's how it goesMillions of people living as foesMaybe it's not too lateTo learn how to loveAnd forget how to hateMental wounds not healingLife's a bitter shameI'm going off the rails on a crazy trainI'm going off the rails on a crazy trainLet's Go!I've listened to preachersI've listened to foolsI've watched all the dropoutsWho make their own rulesOne person conditioned to rule and controlThe media sells it and you live the roleMental wounds still screamingDriving me insaneI'm going off the rails on a crazy trainI'm going off the rails on a crazy trainI know that things are going wrong for meYou gotta listen to my wordsYeahHeirs of a cold warThat's what we've becomeInheriting troubles I'm mentally numbCrazy, I just cannot bearI'm living with something' that just isn't fairMental wounds not healingWho and what's to blameI'm going off the rails on a crazy trainI'm going off the rails on a crazy train

  11. What would we do about that now? If it's some mountain man in the woods I doubt the cops are going to bother going after him.

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    I was trying to use animal abuse as a specific example to a general question which is "how does one handle situations where a DRO or social sanctions won't work?" Change out the animal abuse to spousal abuse and where the farmer and his wife aren't part of any DRO's or police/insurance protection or anything of the sort - they are completely off the grid. I understand that you could take matters into your own hands, but if you didn't want to personally get involved, how would this situation be dealt with?

    Have you listened to Stefan's stateless prisons podcast? Road owners refusing passage would be a HUGE deterrent. If the guy has a house and lives near people he's definitely going to have an easier life if he can buy water, fuel, food, etc.

     

    Where does he get the animals? Basically nobody will sell them to a known abuser.

     

    What about the root of the problem? Why is this guy abusing animals? As I understand it, this is a symptom of childhood trauma and I believe a society based on the NAP would greatly reduce this.

     

    "Don't teach people to speak the language of violence" works just as well with regard to animals IMO.

  12. I'm rather hazy on Catholic rules & regulations, but I'm petty sure it's considered some sort of sin (and not just a mild one like swearing or masturbating) if you take the Sacrement (the cracker thing) while not being baptized and also 'Confirmed' in the Catholic religion. So, using this finger-pointing turd's own logic, you're actually doing the right thing.

    This is the case in protestant churches, so I'd assume you're correct Dave. When I went they'd always say it's for the believers and never pressure a person to take it.

     

    One thing I noticed about churches in my area is lots of people who are like rejects and have no other place to go will attend just because they want some interaction with people. They never learned how to make friends so they go to a place where people are mandated to be nice. The church my in-laws go to actually buses in mentally handicapped people, maybe that catholic church does too...

  13. By 99% of people I meant those who put their trust in democracy. If you can see beyond democracy, you certainly are more savvy about the world, for which many would use the term "smart", than 99% of people. That was very simple, and when people then go "I have no idea what you're talking about" because it does not make perfect sense to them, there's certainly something grating about it. I can't help you if you "have no idea what I'm talking about". Please take one look at your own behavior and I'll take a look at mine. Even if I'm still bullshitting you Jer, I don't need you to help me with that. Thank you for not replying.

    Your title says the words logic, and proof. I found neither. You didn't even make any assertions. Try to understand that your audience can't read your mind, all we have to go on is what you typed and it was just a bunch of fragmented thought. Sorry for not being more gentle. What I should have said was "could you explain it another way?"

     

    Don't neg me bro, it hurts my feelings :sad:

  14. Despite having a starkly conservative reputation, there is a strong libertarian sentiment in the state of Utah; and it's growing stronger.

     

    A friend of mine heads the Libertas Institute (http://libertasutah.org/) and they are at the front of the pack on medical cannabis.

     

    A poll of physicians would have a heavy bias that is not necessarily religious; Utah doctors generally get more sweetheart deals from big pharma than those in other states, and I suspect the poll to which you refer may reflect this.

     

    "According to the poll of 500 random voters, 57 percent of Utahns oppose legalizing marijuana for personal use but 61 percent support allowing individuals to use marijuana if their doctor has prescribed it."

     

    http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/poll-utahns-support-legalization-of-medical-marijuana/article_6491666f-a2f0-55de-b99b-f98e9ba9946c.html

    Good to hear, I listened to Glenn Beck a bunch when I was getting into liberty. Do you think he's popular/having a good influence there? I'd love it if Utah became more friendly to freedom, it's a beautiful place.

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