[Family Has a Violent Reaction to Their Son Coming Out as Gay]

I can't bare to watch it all... Stopped at 4 minutes. Heart goes out to him. 

 

Is he an FDR listener or something? Is Stef trying to reach out to him? 

[Kissing Children/Siblings on the Lips?]

It's not weird, since many people don't feel kissing to be exclusively romantic. 

[Real-Time Relationships and its values as a public school teacher]

nope

 Way to purposefully quote that portion of my post out of context and provide no argument whatsoever. 

 

 

I'm honestly quite disturbed by this. How can an FDR listener and donator do that with a straight face? 

[Real-Time Relationships and its values as a public school teacher]

Do you see no distinction between driving on roads when there's no other reasonable means of transportation and actively seeking a position participating in the process of statist indoctrination? I'm not lobbying my representatives for road building contracts, I'm trying to develop a jetpack (in the metaphorical sense as it relates to public education).

 

Your second statement is not true. There are plenty of teaching opportunities outside of public education. You are posting on a free educational message board...

 

IMO soon it will be blatantly obvious even to bootlicking leftists that the state subsidized education is inferior to the free market alternatives. The fact that the best teachers (i.e. John Taylor Gatto and Stefan Molyneux) refuse to participate in public education will only help to accelerate this.

 

Except he won't be actively promoting indoctrination, will he? 

 

Even in private schools, there are government regulations, not to mention religious propaganda.

 

Stefan Molyneux is not a teacher in the sense that he teaches kids in an organized manner. There is a clear distinction between this message board and a school. 

 

In order to have any sort of credibility as a "teacher" to anyone, one must have a government license, as they have a monopoly on the standards for teaching. So yes, if he wants to become a teacher, he'll have to jump thru all the statist hoops, just like I will to become a psychotherapist. How would I have any credibility to non-experts if I didn't have a license or degree? I understand you can be an expert in psychotherapy without those things, but how can a layman be the judge of whether you are? This is why we have certificates. And the government has a monopoly on them. 

[Real-Time Relationships and its values as a public school teacher]

 

Thanks for your kind feedback xSocrates, I am actually planning on calling in a couple of months time. I just want to do enough research (e.g. reading each one of Stefan's books, and listening to his philosophy series) that I will be prepared to go into a fulfilling discussion with him, as I have noticed that many people don't really arrive prepared to the call, and they struggle to identify the important issues that they want to discuss.

I am Italian and even though I have no problem to verbalize my thoughts, philosophy is really challenging my ability to communicate at such a deeper level and I welcome this struggle very happily.

 

Thanks for the clarification about RTR's target (relationships with friends, family, romantic partners), it is the second book I read, after UPB, and I just felt pushed to take action by reading some passages that seemed tailored to my experience with my future colleagues even though probably they are more of a satellite target of the book.

 

Have you already made arrangements with Mike? I think the wait list is around a month or two anyways. 

 

 

Welcome Corey. I can relate. I was planning to teach also, but had decided against public school before I came to philosophy (mainly because I wanted nothing to do with unions). Then I became an atheist and that eliminated lots of the private choices. I have a problem with compulsory education in general and I don't want to try to teach people who don't want to learn, so I'm looking into private tutoring and/or language schools like English as a second language.

 

So the reason behind your plan to teach in public schools is that you want to be a mentor and role model for young people while earning a living, right? Can you accomplish that in a setting where the kids are not forced to be there and your salary isn't funded by taxes? If you believe that taxation is theft and theft is immoral, would it be easier or harder to have a positive impact on the people you teach if your salary is funded through theft?

 

Do you feel a crisis of conscience for using the internet, which was created by a government, funded by taxes? Using roads? Buying government subsidized agricultural products? Of course not. 

 

If one wants to teach, this is the path he has to take because of state power. The kids would be forced to go to school anyways. They'd still have the same parents. Some other asshole would fill the position.

[Real-Time Relationships and its values as a public school teacher]

You can't be a pubic school teacher and not violate the NAP everyday, all day.

 

 

Wow, how do you get around without roads?

 

 

 

On topic to the OP - Have you ever thought about calling into the show? You should! This would be a great topic!

 

No matter where you go, you'll be surrounded by immoral people. You need to make a living, you'll be surrounded by immoral people, and when you try to make a difference (which is exactly what you're doing with teaching *high five*), you WILL be surrounded by immoral people. It's perfectly fine from a moral standpoint to be in the presence of these people professionally. Real Time Relationships is more concerned with close, personal, relationships. Like friends, family, romantic partners, etc.

 

Unless we all buy up a bunch of land a live there, we'll all have to deal with assholes in our lives. That's not immoral, that's just reality.

 

Hope this helps! I really do admire you for your chosen profession, and it's good to know we have a school teacher out there. Please consider going on the show and talking about this. It would be a very interesting and useful conversation.

[NAP and the Socratic Method]

Take out the "supposed" and "you have decided" and my answer is: Of course!

 

We don't call a dog that catches a frisbee a physics student. We don't say that a man that measures a piece of wood he's cutting to conform with municipal refuse regulations is studying carpentry. Even if people who were truly exploring these disciplines would engage in these behaviors. If I guess a coin you flip in the air, it doesn't make me psychic or telekinetic, even if I chanced my way into mimicking what behaviors of those people might look like.

 

Right, so how do you know their intentions and why do you use it to get around applying the Socratic method to the NAP?

[NAP and the Socratic Method]

The Socratic method as I understand it is simply considering applications of a claim to test its validity and consistency. This is for the purpose of assessing its truth value.

 

People who come up with man on the flagpole scenarios are not interested in whether or not what they're examining (NAP here) is valid. They are interested in seeing if they can either assimilate it with their preferred view and if not, can they outwardly disregard it wholesale to avoid having to admit their prioritization of personal preference (culture) over reality. Otherwise known as confirmation bias.

 So you're defining the Socratic method by supposed intention that you have decided a person has? Ironically, it seems like you have a case of confirmation bias here. Maybe you should actually respond to these rebuttals and rationally argue against them if they are false.

 

Even under your definition, have you applied the Socratic method to the NAP, UPB, etc. ?

[Privatly funded mars colonization!]

Isn't this an anthropomorphism? Isn't it like saying that I don't think the car will turn left within the next 100 years? Like a car, our path as a race lies wherever we steer it. Just wanted to point that out since sitting back with certainty for gloom within the next 100 years sort of allows those that would steer it that way a path of lowered resistance.

Humanity isn't a car, it's a collective of humans. Look at its history. Things change, but the fundamental nature does not. It's a broken record and although we are getting closer and closer as I type this, it is far from redemption.

[Privatly funded mars colonization!]

I believe it was me that said it was a financial black hole.

 

Again this is just my opinion, What do I know. But I believe that one might as well burn that money. The reason. The state of the financial markets will make further investments harder to procure in the future and the project will likely be abandoned half way like a badly planned ancient Egyptian pyramid. I don't think this is the right time for society to embark on something like this. If we had a free society around the world and had nothing better to do with the money, then sure, shoot it to outer space. Don''t get me wrong, I'm not advocating for an utilitarian approach. People can do with their money as they please.

 

To me is like a 300lb guy who buys an Ab machine but changes nothing else in his lifestyle...To me he is just throwing his money away but that's my opinion, he can do with his money as he pleases.

 

Very valid point. Maybe I'm just too cynical, but I honestly don't think humanity will ever change for the better within the next 100 years, and we shouldn't wait that long. No matter what, short of an apocalypse, humanity will not wait that long. 

 

But yes, humanity and the individuals who make up it have more fundamental goals to be working on. 

[Lack of Empathy]

I would probably agree with this friend. I see this in many people, especially with those in this community, who simply cannot put themselves in someone else's shoes when they have opposing arguments. It's not a statement  that you're both right, it's merely humility and being better able to engage people in important subjects. 

[Privatly funded mars colonization!]

  I see no best case scenario on this one. Until I see some plans for terraforming prior to human missions this is a one way ticket to a suicide mission.

 

It's a long-term investment in humanity's colonization and resource exploitation of space. If it succeeds, it will set the grounds for future Mars exploration, colonization, and one day terraformation. It's also a non-profit, so I'm not sure why someone said it's a financial black hole. If you're speaking of the dollar and euro, of course, but I'm pretty sure the entire project isn't going to be funded by bitcoins, which even then isn't the ideal currency. 

[AM I COMPLETELY ALONE!?]

Wow, you sound exactly like me. I too always wonder if there's something wrong with me if I'm thinking there is with everybody else. People are so irrational and I'm very lonely because of it.