ZetaMan

Say what you want about the myriad faulty social and political movements out there - this right here is creepsville. What an odd reaction to a hostile social change. It's like a mix of cloaked paedophilia and the natural inherent desire to protect one's daughters/gene pool from destruction.

I'm casting my vote to also have Polytheism over Judaic religion AND Atheism - whether it's "true" or not. We don't ask a poet for scientific proof that the words he uses were correct to some objective criteria, but it moves us all the same. Thread so far is tl:dr for me. Sorry to everyone who posted beforehand. Normally I avoid threads I don't fully read, but I couldn't stop myself. P.S. An interesting political theorist/essayist/author who is selling this idea (specifically the return to indigenous local Pagan wisdom) is Tom Sunic. I think his ideas are well-worth digesting.

Clay provides conclusive proof that Anarcho-Capitalists and Anarcho-Communists cannot share the same planet in the absence of a State that doesn't give a shit about either ideology. "Property is theft", and as the twisted genius Adolf Hitler said: (paraphrased) "You can't commit treason against the treasonous"... or.. you can't steal from a thief. I personally don't know what camp I'll fall into if it became a matter of the two polar ideologies fighting over a region. It'd rest entirely on my own situation at the time. Screw morals.

See, this is what I'm getting at here. Fundamentals. Everything starts with a fundamental - even the NAP starts with a fundamental. You can't justify a fundamental, it's merely the basis for the rest of the logic. There's nothing in The Communist Manifesto that makes an argument for why Humans need equality - it's a given.

Hey guys. I covered "Keep on Rockin in the Free World" and made a video for it, and I thought you guys would appreciate the message behind it. The cover itself is a parody. Not serious at all. I just clipped my nose with my fingers and sang

Cab21: As a former Marxist I can confirm that "Each according to his need, each according to his ability" is nothing more than a slogan. The fundamental grounds of Marxism is that, as you quoted, the full value of the labour isn't rewarded to the worker (Alienation from the Effect of Labour). The full reward for the labour is unrestricted equal access to the product of labour. Technically, that doesn't make sense as a factory of 10 workers producing 100 widgets a day aught to bring home 10 widgets a day - yet they need more than one type of product, and then it just becomes absurd. A word to the wise here: You can't argue fundamental arguments (axioms) for social systems. You'll be arguing 'til your gray and old, and it would probably be the cause for you graying much sooner. What you want to do is argue Marxism in the area of what happens to people after about 3 years into the experiment.

You wouldn't, however, sit idly by while a bunch of loons ransack your property in the name of "liberating" your property - I safely assume. And as for the Middle East - Western molestation didn't help, but you also have indigenous rivalries. There are States that overlook (and, to a great degree, suppress) the rampant warfare, but those are a recycling of "kings of the hill". The U.S. and other empires try to install their allied factions in that position, but not always with success.

I find "Left Libertarians" are more capable of making arguments from actual Human concerns. And I'm getting suspicious of peoples' inability to disgest and refute arguments contrary to their beliefs around here. Given this to'ing and fro'ing, I find myself drifting towards authoritarianism again. At least within that framework you wont have open warfare between Anarcho-Capitalists and Communists, and all their myriad branches, like in some godforsaken Middle Eastern hell hole.

Want to hold your horses there, soldier? Maybe you read my post (which happened to be part of a conversation with someone who isn't you) ass-backwards. Maybe I was saying that my halting the use of tobacco and weed were due to accessibility and my own happiness (which, by the way, renders your determinism rubbish faulty). But of course you wouldn't necessarily understand what was being said because you barged into a blindin' (Irish colloquialism - expletive) conversation betwixed two other people. What the sh*t is your major malfunction? Joe Rogan would agree with me that the use of language on that level can be owned by he who first coined it or he who recently mastered it through the strength of his character. There's two people as a prime example, and 1,000s more who agree. We have a commons. Where this idea comes from is the highly esteemed society of stand up comedy, and I was speaking from that position. But that's yet another subtlety of language I've observed fly right over your head. What kinda autistic bullsh*t is this?

FYI, I only mentioned the man because he said it first and to repeat without giving due credit is just plagiarism. Does anything make anyone addicted to anything? I smoked pot as a teenager, and a year into my experiments I started smoking cigarettes. Gave up pot when I was 20, and at 24 I gave up smoking cigarettes for 15 months. Started smoking cigarettes again. 2 years later started smoking pot again. All of that came down to two factors: availability and having things in my life that sufficiently took my attention away from those things. The times I really felt the pangs of withdrawal from cigarettes was when I wasn't in the best emotional space. So I seriously question whether anything less than heroin or crank is physically addictive.

And as Joe Rogan (stand-up comic, Fear Factor presenter, famous podcaster) once skillfully said: "If weed ruined your life it's because weed got there first".

Ah! I figured it out now. You have to regularly donate to FDR to cast a vote.

Pretty much what Dylan laid out. Given a choice, lifting prohibition would be a good idea on multiple fronts including economies. My only issue has ever been the fact that all economic activity around weed that wont get you thrown in jail is inextricably tied to an artificially limited currency. Now why in god's name did you have to vote down my last post? Was it really worth your energy? Did it hurt your feelings or something?

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