TonyG666

Pepin, I dream almost everynight and everynight while dreaming, I believe it. Until I wake up. What if this is a dream too. Rainbow Dash, I would be sure we don't exists if I did not knew that quote. dsayers, Anything about the topic? MMD, But how do you know, any kind of typing was made? Pepin again, in this second post you made, the first and second paragraph is the entire thing I wanted to say when I started this thread.

Well of course I posted that quote there. That quote there is the argument to say that you may be wrong saying I was certain. Do you even read my posts?

Do we exist? Are seeing,touching,hearing something enough reasons to believe something exists? People are so convinced that what they see is true, but they do the same thing when they dream. I still don't know. I am between believing this is real and not believing it at all. What do you think?

cab21, well I can't re say again what I said because that's the only thing left. I just suggests you to re-read the post before replying. dsayers, I was very careful if you look at the posts I made to use only the word "think". When I think about something to be true or not I am open to anyone to prove me if I am wrong made to that thing that I think its true. About the other part of your post, well I think you go deep in the psychology and not in the philosophy. About opportunity I made a very big post just to say what I think about it. I was expecting a post to make me start thinking about life not being determined.

I have seen some people that demonize inflation by saying that the prices rise and that makes it worse in their lives. My question is:"Doesn't supply/demand leads to prices to stabilize since if prices rise, than people buy less and businesses lower the price again so the people buy enough to keep the business running?"

dsayers, I think nothing is certain, that's why I replied that long message. Just so I can explain to you that it's just probabilities. It's impossible for us to use the opportunities because we ourselves don't decide which opportunities will come to our lives. cab21, That person didn't decide what will come for the next moment to change his mind. What's the difference? Let's have an example. Let's say someone has to choose between joining Economy School or for example Police Academy. He chooses Economy School. 75% of the influence of the decision was to choose Economy because of the crisis that may have led him to learn more about economy and/or the fact that is a high paying job. 20%of the influence was to choose Police Academy. This influence comes from Hollywood police movies where the cops are shown as heroes. 5% of the influence may come from a single imagination that he had in his mind where he imagined like he saved someone from a robber. Now you may say that well imagination comes from the "present". Well I think something may have happened many times in his past that made him imagine himself as a hero. Maybe a little heroic act he did when he was in college where he felt very good and got complimented. If this person talks to someone about the decision he may say to him that he chose Economy but still has some thoughts that maybe he should have choose Police Academy. I think that 75% of the influence made him to chose Economy, 25% got him those thoughts. He didn't decide to study Economics, his past did. He didn't decided to think about the fact that maybe he should have chose Police Academy, his past did. And ending it by saying, did he decided to be born in that place he was born? Did he decided to have these parents he had (when we know about how strong the parent's influence is when we are kids). Did he decided to have those influences that he had that made him chose Economy and think about Police academy? What if he would be born in Africa, in the highest poverty, in a country in war? Would we be talking about a person that has to chose between 2 kind of schools?

cab21, sorry I could not understand what are you trying to say, dsayers, The question you made is because I made the post you quotated, short. When I said:"If my sister didn't explained me what determinism is I would not open a conversation about determinism" I said it short, because the fact that she explained me about what determinism is, isn't the only influence. It is the biggest influence needed enough for me to start this conversation. What I am trying to say is that I think that:" somebody could not join this forum without first knowing about this forum" =true. "Somebody that knows this forum has 100percent of possibilities to join this forum"=false. I am saying that the fact that the person knows this forum is an influencer, huge one or small one that depends on how the other part of the person's past/influence was. I think that the reason why I joined this forum can't be said about 100s others who didn't. Because the reason I joined belongs to my past. 100s other's pasts were different, therefor they may have different futures. cynicist, I think it's impossible to know the real reasons of why people "do" things. Because there are some things that we do that we like and we don't ask ourselves why, and even if we did, still we would get a biased answer from ourselves. Because I think that even WE lie to ourselves by trying to hide things we don't like from our past. What I can say is what I think the biggest influencers might be. The biggest influencer I think is the fact that I am convinced that I am right and that there are almost 90 percent of people who disagree. I think I have the need for other people to get convicted by me in a philosophical argument by telling me I am right. This may come from the past I had when in such conversations people told me I was wrong. This gets connected to the pursue of pride inside me that comes from humility that I had when I was younger, and it goes on and on through my whole past and the whole things that influenced this "past" and their "past"s till the start of time explaining why I made this thread. About why other people's thoughts matter to me I still don't know what can be the biggest influencer but maybe the reason I just said.

I think their opinion of what is more important for them is influenced 100 percent from the past. For example for someone who people have told him to love family, and convinced him to do so, the most important is family. For someone else most important is something else.

cab21, When I say "want" I am talking in the figurative meaning of the word. Because I think it influences 100percent of the decisions I use the word "decide". And whoever "decides" something "wants" that thing to happen. Hearing an instrument will give the first influence, a show on tv where the presenter gives a good opinion on a professional performer will give the second influence. After he may question his parents about what do "performers" do, he may get an answer which will influence more him about trying to become a professional performer. For example:"Its a high paying job" or something like that. There might have been several things that influence someone to try to win a competition. I mean everyone knows how people clap to the winner. The winner is filled with proud, and people want that. Andrew79, Thanks for informing. Bad thing this topic will be closed.

dsayers, Thanks for the critic. I think it's not just accepting free will. If Stefan has a good reason to not make topics like this I am cool. I though that maybe something have happened before I joined which let to creating of a rule of not posting threads on determinism. That's why I asked him why. I think that a big influence that led me to this conclusion is when I hear about people's lives how they went, and mostly why they failed. I am very concentrated in having success in life, and to do that I have gathered information on why people success and why they fail. And it seems to me that no one decides to fail or to success. I see it as an illusion of deciding. For example let's say I am talking about this thing with someone in real life. He tells me that he decides by saying to me that for example after 6 seconds the mouse of his pc will be moved. And after 6 seconds he moves the mouse and tells me that he decide some of the things that happend in his life. And I say, well if I didn't open the conversation about determinism you would not move the mouse. And if my sister didn't explain me what determinism is I would not open the conversation about determinism. If my sister would not study philosophy in school, she would not explain me what determinism is. If she and I would be born with parents trying to convince her to study in university of economics for example she would not study philosophy. And this goes on and on till the start of time.

Marcus, I think that the past doesn't just influences, it decides in the meaning of it influences 100percent of the brain. When I talk about the past I don't say only what we remember, I am talking about the past starting from when I was born or before that. For example, there is someone who tries to win in a competition and loses. There is his friend who says:"Well it's your fault". What I think is that there were several things that made him lose the competition and all these things are things he get from his past. In these I include the capacity for logic, understanding, learning (Intelligence); because I think intelligence is something we are born. Even if it wasn't and it is something we get more and more from life, still, did that person decided to have a life(or past) where he would have enough intelligence to win the competition? Andrew79, sorry than didn't knew. What I also don't know is why he does not want people to post topics on determinism? cab21, why do you think so?

What we do: Everything people do for example surfing internet. Our past: Everything that happened to us. Our birth, our history.

I think EU is the first "union" to create and use the invasion method called: Come to the family.

Because I think we don't. I think that everything we "do" its in fact what our past wants to do, because we are a product of our past and we don't decide our past. How do you think?