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Sorry, its been a while and I am at work. I was trying to find a simple example. There are infinitely many primes and even countably infinite (my mistake). Prove the following: There exists a polynomial time generator of prime numbers. In other words given any prime number P(i) it can find the next prime number P(i+1) such that the numbers of algorithmic steps is a polynomial of P If you can not prove it I assume it does not exist... Its the same mistake you are making OK I am getting a little frustrated here folks... Yes I made an error but you're also throwing in huge meta-statements of logical proof around like it's just basic algebra. For the record.... I did my Master's in Computer Science 8 years ago, undergrad in biochem and I am a data scientist for a living - I've published papers in Academic Journals. I took a course in Complexity Theory in grad school and here is what I learned.... Godel's Incompleteness Theorem PROVED that there are statements which are true but unprovable. And I worked through his proof as well as proofs by Turing, Chomsky, Church, Savitch, P vs. NP. There are things that can not be proven - period. You can claim there is "no evidence" of anything spiritual but you are relaxing the constraints of a proof to fit your own agenda - going from logical to evidence based is highly flawed as you know. I'm tired of being told by Atheists that you are oh so much more clever than anyone with a spiritual background. Smarter than Einstein? There were plenty of brilliant scientists were NOT Atheists. You're clearly on the Path of Richard Dawkins who is a notorious narcissist. I read part of the "God Delusion" and could barely stand listening to him - full of logical errors.

Prove to me that there are infinitely many prime numbers - since you can not and since it is impossible to prove such a thing I must therefore conclude there are not infinitely prime numbers. Unfortunately if you reverse this argument (i.e. prove there are not infinitely prime numbers) you wind up with the same conundrum. Now - for those claiming to be the high priests of logic and reason here - what is the logical mistake I made? That is the same logical mistake you are making. Please avoid using hyperbolic analogies about magic dragons in your garage to justify what is clearly a logical error. There is no proof either way therefore... Therefore NOTHING

I thought I set it to public but I clearly don't know what I am doing. I am on my iphone now so I'll have to attend to it tomorrow. I refuse to put it up on Google Docs which mutilated my formatting and linked images. I think it's a dandy write up but I am the author so yeah... Anyways I can email it too if anyone leaves me a message with their address. I really want some feedback on and to help spread it to a wider audience - all 62 pages.

They were. Hermeticism is also being lost to the west and it very much bothers me. There was this guy living in Baxter State Park in Maine for like a decade completely in the woods and when they finally tracked him down they put him in a mental facility right away. That story kind of sent a very strong message to me that the State doesn't want us having those connections to the "other side" or nature or the unknown, whatever you want to call it. And I think it's having a negative effect on everyone who is stuck in the current digital matrix system and doesn't get outside or get "quiet" ever. And I'm a computer science major! I also think introverts are being targeted and exploited more and more. There's a lot of interrelated problems here obviously. Btw if you do shrooms or other psychedelic drug for the first time make sure it's near an open space or in the woods with a few people you know. Stay away from crowds, urban areas, crammed indoors, police, family, etc.

I'm not super serious about religion but I am a practicing Buddhist - I meditate once a week at the local Shambala Center for an hour and I also study Christian philosophy as well as take an interest in other religious beliefs. I've also had some very strange experiences that I can't explain nor would I unless I knew someone really well. I think there is a spiritual side to Anarchy that is very similar to many religious beliefs particularly Buddhism which places a lot of responsibility on the individual. In any religious texts, the way I read some of them, I see a lot of discussion about the individual and their relationship with a higher power. So religious institutionalism interferes with that and historically subjugated the individual via a religious hierarchy preventing the individual from having their own experience or saying it was heresy. The State has been even worse IMO - completely destroying or undermining personal and spiritual growth. There are a lot of Christian Philosophers who talk about the dangers of "messianistic governments" or the folly of trying to bring utopia to earth as a delusional and destructive path (Reinhold Niebuhr comes to mind). Others talk about how what is possible for an individual is impossible for the masses (Gurdjieff). I see these as Anarchistic beliefs and there should be a sort of natural alliance between these kinds of thinkers and atheist Anarchists but instead I see a lot of in-house fighting and suspicion of people who are more spiritually seeking. I hope these different branches can come together because we frankly need each other and have a common enemy right now. I don't think I even need to mention who they are... BTW - if you want to read about some of the last true Christians to have lived on Earth read about the branches of Christianity that went EAST through Russia, Armenia and Siberia. Here is one such family that fled Stalin's purges and his alone in the taiga of Siberia for decades (I think the daughter is still alive): http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/for-40-years-this-russian-family-was-cut-off-from-all-human-contact-unaware-of-world-war-ii-7354256/

Mothra I think you've demonstrated a lot of courage. I am the proud father of an 8 month old and my wife and I are having difficulties. I am not willing to say much more than that but relationships are complicated and many couples don't understand each other well even after marriage under ostensibly pure intentions. I do understand about single mothers who've made really bad choices but with my wife, should we choose to separate, I can't say she's been anything but a great mom. I think the bigger issues is society is in "man-blame" mode and it's clear the Femi-Marxists are behind it having taken over the media. It rots away the foundation of many good relationships where the man is working (I work full time) and yet he is somehow expected to the equivalent of a housewife too - it's like reverse payback for the 50s and it's leading to higher divorce rates. That's my two cents. Single motherhood is a complex issues and it bothers me greatly when society automatically assumes innocence of the mother and absence of the father but I think we should be careful to assume too much about the mothers being welfare queens or having poor taste in men (id like to think my wife had good taste in men since she married me but of course I am biased). Please also understand - everyone here really - when I turned "libertarian/anarchist" it was part way through our marriage and my wife couldn't relate. I felt like Richard Dreyfuss in Close Encounters where his wife just thinks he's lost his mind. Statists have no concept of what anarchy really means and my wife is a "true believer" in Government. The world is being split in two on these issues and I think we in the Anarchist community really need to support each other first and foremost. Even those who have made mistakes. But you know Mothra your child is not a mistake if you have stuck around and refused to give her over to the State. You should feel proud. I am fighting on the vaccine front keeping my son from getting over vaccinated (it's been really crazy) and no MMR until I am satisfied it is safe (I am not at the moment). I am not here to argue about that btw - do what you think is right with your kids. Kids are precious, so precious and I see parents who don't give a shit and teach their kids all kinds of horrible values - we are also breeding R's and eliminating K's as Stephan says. If you can find yourself a good man even at this phase of your life and be honest with him about past mistakes it will be worth it. Be patient but keep looking.

Let me know if you can see this: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BzJQhDyKpuZ3cTRGQkdGejlpTnM I could potentially link the word doc version too if people want to edit or comment. Sharing with others is welcome too...

Google Docs destroyed my formatting. I have a lot of images and links. It's an interactive .pdf.

I've written a rather long, 62 page paper (.pdf) on Individualism vs. Collectivism. I wrote this for a newsletter I have been providing for friends and family since 2013 (I was motivated initially by the Snowden Revelations). I've noticed recently however that most of my friends are leftists/progressives/Marxists and basically either say nothing in response or even get offended and I get a lot of snarky comments even from family although I have a few supporters too. I'd like to have my work read, reviewed and commented/edited by someone a little more "Anarcho-Friendly". The writing is designed somewhat for a more liberal audience (i.e. my friends and family) so there are some things I can't go into and I try to keep it up to date with current events (a few of Molyneux's videos are linked). I do my best not to rant on the left but there's a lot of stuff that clearly bothers me about them in my writing. Lots of stuff about race/gender/identity in the Anarchist vs. Collectivist view, economics and centralized planning, a huge section on mass human migration and capping off with R vs. K topics and even a little section on the connections between Buddhism and Anarchy. I am happy to email or share with others for free. I have more documents from the past too and I am interested in having someone, who has a moderate amount of web traffic, potentially host my writing (anonymously) if they are OK with it (of course withing some reasonable editorial flexibility). Shoot me a line if this interests you - the file is too big to upload... Thanks! V.A.

" Bush Convicted of War Crimes in Absentia by Yvonne Ridley May 12, 2012 428 Comments Kuala Lumpur — It’s official; George W Bush is a war criminal. In what is the first ever conviction of its kind anywhere in the world, the former US President and seven key members of his administration were yesterday (Fri) found guilty of war crimes. Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and their legal advisers Alberto Gonzales, David Addington, William Haynes, Jay Bybee and John Yoo were tried in absentia in Malaysia. The trial held in Kuala Lumpur heard harrowing witness accounts from victims of torture who suffered at the hands of US soldiers and contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan. They included testimony from British man Moazzam Begg, an ex-Guantanamo detainee and Iraqi woman Jameelah Abbas Hameedi who was tortured in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison. At the end of the week-long hearing, the five-panel tribunal unanimously delivered guilty verdicts against Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and their key legal advisors who were all convicted as war criminals for torture and cruel, inhumane and degrading treatment. Full transcripts of the charges, witness statements and other relevant material will now be sent to the Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court, as well as the United Nations and the Security Council. The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Commission is also asking that the names of Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, Yoo, Bybee, Addington and Haynes be entered and included in the Commission’s Register of War Criminals for public record. The tribunal is the initiative of Malaysia’s retired Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, who staunchly opposed the American-led invasion of Iraq in 2003. He sat through the entire hearing as it took personal statements and testimonies of three witnesses namely Abbas Abid, Moazzam Begg and Jameelah Hameedi. The tribunal also heard two other Statutory Declarations of Iraqi citizen Ali Shalal and Rahul Ahmed, another British citizen. After the guilty verdict reached by five senior judges was delivered, Mahathir Mohamad said: “Powerful countries are getting away with murder.” War crimes expert and lawyer Francis Boyle, professor of international law at the University of Illinois College of Law in America, was part of the prosecution team. After the case he said: “This is the first conviction of these people anywhere in the world.” While the hearing is regarded by some as being purely symbolic, human rights activist Boyle said he was hopeful that Bush and Co could soon find themselves facing similar trials elsewhere in the world." http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2012/05/12/bush-convicted-of-war-crimes-in-absentia/

The Gates Foundation and WHO Labeled Unethical by Medical Experts In 2012, Ramesh Shankar Mumbai, an author writing for the Pharmabiz website, reported that two medical experts from India had accused the Gates Foundation and WHO of being unethical. In his report, Mumbai stated that Dr. Neetu Vashisht and Dr. Jacob Puliyel of the Department of Pediatrics at St. Stephens Hospital in Delhi, wrote the following information in their report in the April issue of Indian Journal of Medical Ethics. It was unethical for WHO and Bill Gates to flog this program when they knew 10 years back that it was never to succeed. Getting poor countries to expend their scarce resources on an impossible dream over the last 10 years was unethical. Pharmabiz.com reported that Dr. Vashisht and Dr. Puliyel had continued their report by stating: Another major ethical issue raised by the campaign is the failure to thoroughly investigate the increase in the incidence of non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) in areas where many doses of vaccine were used. NPAFP is clinically indistinguishable from polio paralysis but twice as deadly. Pharmabiz.com continued: The authors noted that while India was polio-free in 2011, in the same year, there were 47500 cases of NPAFP. While data from India’s National Polio Surveillance Project showed NPAFP rate increased in proportion to the number of polio vaccine doses received, independent studies showed that children identified with NPAFP ‘were at more than twice the risk of dying than those with wild polio infection.’ [8] The corruption and deceit by these organizations does not stop there. The Gates Foundation Blamed for 10,000 Vaccine-Related Deaths In 2013, yet another report named the Gates Foundation and GAVI as being responsible for multiple deaths using untested vaccinations on children from the developing world. The report, published on the website Occupy Corporatism and written by Susanne Posel stated: As we know, GAVI is heavily funded by the Gates Foundation. [10] So, what was the name of the organization that investigated GAVI and found them using untested polio vaccinations in Pakistan? According to the Express Tribune article, which I referred to earlier in this article, it was none other than the Indian government, who, upon discovering the shocking truth, recommended the immediate suspension of the administration of all types of vaccines funded by GAVI. [7] In a recent radio show hosted by Sallie O. Elkordy, Susanne Posel gave her frank and honest views on the whole sorry mess that we find ourselves in today. Warning: This report is not for the faint-hearted. [11] http://www.activistpost.com/2014/10/india-holds-bill-gates-accountable-for.html

If people started trading housing in gold the currency would hyperinflate - in other words, in the short run it would drive prices up because people would realize the value of holding gold outside the financial institutions to begin with. But this would also drive more people into owning gold as well and would, for a short period of time, make gold transactions more sought after (especially since these can be managed outside the financial system's purvey) which would mean that in gold terms, yes the prices would drop dramatically. But you can also see why the central planners are so freaked out over this possibility. They could make gold transactions illegal but that would only drive the price up in dollars higher. I mean, there's really no way out for them but its funny watching them dancing around, waiving their hands like they have some magic ability to control it all. I actually think we will reach this point very soon ironically. So get your gold (and silver) now while its still cheap...

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It's interesting that you're basically saying you won't put your product to market out of fear of some sort of backlash. Fear of what specifically may I ask? Are you afraid the government might back the automotive industry and crush your enterprise if you did? Or is it that you would be personally sad to put all those people out of work? Or it is that you are afraid no one can build a car around your new fuel source in which case its not a valid fuel source to begin with? Surely there are some private investors who could prototype it no? Not even Tesla? You can't just dangle it out there but then retract it and say no one is ready just so you can get your startup costs paid for by Uncle Sam... In the first case your argument is invalid for obvious reasons. In the second case you are making an emotional appeal which should not prevent others from taking your product to market. In the third case you are just being short sighted. I don't see any justification for your argument for socializing the cost of investment.

I read somewhere else that it wasn't just the two deaths - many of the girls had neurological damage, etc. I heard it was not the "standard" batch but rather a trial batch. Some kind of experiment gone wrong sort of thing but I don't want to go into details about that here. We'll have to let the Indian Government sort it out. PS - I have also heard that Mr. Gates would be arrested on the spot should he travel to India. Same with Dick Cheney and George W. Bush in Malaysia. We just don't hear about these stories here in the west.

"Dialectic of Dabbling Dilettante Debaters" - Who comes up with these phrases?

Not intending to hijack the thread but to expand on the Bill Gates Vaccine scandal please read the following: “While fraud and corruption are revealed on almost a daily basis now in the vaccine industry, the U.S. mainstream media continues to largely ignore such stories. Outside the U.S., however, the vaccine empires are beginning to crumble, and English versions of the news in mainstream media outlets are available via the Internet. One such country is India, where the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and their vaccine empire are under fire, including a pending lawsuit currently being investigated by the India Supreme Court.” [1] Goes on... “BMGF, PATH and WHO were criminally negligent trialling the vaccines on a vulnerable, uneducated and under-informed population school administrators, students and their parents who were not provided informed consent or advised of potential adverse effects or required to be monitored post-vaccination.” [2] "The Economic Times India published their report August 2014. They stated that in 2009, tests had been carried out on 16,000 tribal school children in Andhra Pradesh, India, using the human papiloma virus (HPV) vaccine, Gardasil. According to the report written by KP Narayana Kumar, within a month of receiving the vaccine, many of the children fell ill and by 2010, five of them had died. A further two children were reported to have died in Vadodara, Gujarat, where an estimated 14,000 tribal children were vaccinated with another brand of the HPV vaccine, Cervarix, manufactured by GlaxoSmitheKline (GSK). Shockingly, the report stated that many of the consent forms used to vaccinate the girls were signed “illegally,” either by the wardens from the hostels where many of the girls resided, or using thumbprints from illiterate parents." http://vactruth.com/2014/10/05/bill-gates-vaccine-crimes/ But, but...It was for the "Greater Good"...

Why do I care what she thinks at all? And why is she viewed as an authority on this subject vs. the hundreds of millions of other people who have had a different experience? I mean, she feels there is a "gender pay gap" or whatever trendy Marxist term is in style. I don't and I don't care what she thinks. I got an email from the ACLU the other day talking about "white privilege" and how its unjust and invisible but all-prevasive - talk about not knowing your audience. I unsubscribed and told them to go F themselves. How are they even arbitrating on such things? The ACLU is supposed to be about civil liberties, not social justice warrioring. Is there any person on earth, that, if you went up to them and told them that simply based on their skin color they had and unspoken "privilege" that they should give up and that its only fair to give more of their money to everyone else, etc., who wouldn't automatically hate you? Liberals are the ones obsessed with race and gender. That's all they f'ng talk about. How about we start calling them on it? Liberals are so f'ng clueless its unreal. They're really upping their game folks, Sauron would be jealous...

I think you're doing the right thing given the circumstances we all face. One person at a time. One arrest at a time. It may seem fruitless to "educate" others in your field but over time you will have some impact, however small, that will make things better. The very fact that you are there, that others in the force are being exposed to these ideas themselves IS one step closer to anarchism. Once enough people are educated maybe we have a reduction in both crime and the size of the police. You know your job ultimately is to help make things better and over time perhaps as anarchy grows you'll be hired as a private security officer for a company you respect. You're on the right path. I salute you.

MagnumPI rand Sage... Do you think libertarianism and anarchy include the right to exploit those you deem to be of "lesser intelligence"? One might wish to consider the knowledge of first peoples regarding medicine in particular as most of our modern medicine was derived from their vast knowledge of medicinal plants. Contrast with the knowledge of most white people in North America regarding their own health and you'll see the vast majority are fat, lazy, uninformed, barely literate and believe that poking buttons on a shiny screen and making sophomoric statements on Facebook makes them more "intelligent". And now instead of giving natives smallpox laced blankets we give the white natives toxin laced vaccines even for ordinary colds and nearly indigestible GMO foods but hey they are not intelligent enough to figure it out so shame on them. So if that is your definition of an "advanced civilization" then I believe you are both in need of some native brewed huayasca. That and a smaller empathy gap.

Europeans are indigenous to Europe. That's right - white people actually came from somewhere and have their own European cultures which are distinct and various. Now we see the massive Muslim migration out of the war torn Middle East (thank you neoconservatives and liberal faux "humanitarians") and where do they all wish to migrate? Why the wealthiest, hardest working, most productive, European countries with the most generous welfare. Hard working, sincere, ingenuitive, trade oriented and peaceful migrants are what you attract without a generous welfare state. People can't just invade because it's not practical nor profitable to do so. If you have nothing to offer, you will starve. Likewise I would offer that without the welfare state Europeans themselves would be much more likely to defend their homelands from invasion knowing full well what it takes to survive there year round and perhaps even a sense of pride about their people and culture which seems to be lacking now. I submit to you that the same principles would hold elsewhere in modern times. Invasions are costly and only if you have vastly superior weaponry or if the place you are invading has foolishly accepted you and everyone like you as guests they are willing to pay for does it makes sense to "invade" anyone anywhere. I think people will figure this out quickly in am anarchist world - a few may try but they are likely to fail and set an example for others in doing so.

I don't object to the intentions of socialism - I object to the methods. Lefties always have great "intentions" but terrible delivery as they have severed their neurological connection to the logic and reason portion of their brains and are often deriving their "ideas" solely from the emotional centers. But are you saying you are unhappy if everyone benefits and wins in a patent free world? Remember there are different "flavors" of Anarchy out there. I am not among the Ayn Rand crowd and although I respect her work, she was no friend to the anarchist movement which she very much patronized. Keep in mind, to counter your point, I don't believe the purpose of human beings and human development is simply to make profits, to become purely rational automaton consumers and producers in a purely "econ" world. Nor do I believe we should differentiate ourselves from everyone else strictly through our IQ and and "productive capacity" (that seems rather "Randian" to me). I think those things are incredibly important, don't get me wrong, but they aren't the whole reason why we are here. I have as much respect for hermits and monks who can live in pure solitude off the land on minimal subsistence, practicing meditation and being close to nature as any brilliant entrepreneur. I don't believe there are human beings who should be treated as "demigods" simply due to their intelligence in much the same way I don't believe they should be treated as "demi-gods" simply because of their perceived technocratic power within the current collectivist paradigm's hierarchy (i.e. government). Rand seemed to always feel there were "superhumans" who were above and beyond everyone else and should essentially break away and form their own colony - but why? What purpose does that serve? And who would do their cleaning other than someone of less intelligence? At the same time I am perfectly aware that there will always be rich people and poor people within any rational, free trade economic paradigm - that doesn't bother me. I don't think it would be healthy at all to have total economic equality among everyone - that is both Marxist and destructive to the individual. However I also think when there are such extreme differences in income as you see today in the US, it is a symptom of something wrong, something broken within our economic paradigm. Currently, I blame the Fed and its Keynesian form of centralized planning for much of what is wrong with that paradigm (i.e. socialism for the rich, competition for bread crumbs for everyone else) in the US as I've discussed before. I do believe that as these systems are corrected and unwound from centralized planning and hegemony that you will see a greater abundance of wealth and a larger number of people being lifted out of poverty as people learn how to become productive again. Would that not be a good thing? The only way to fully defend oneself from "idea" theft is with the threat of violence from government who will define what a novel idea is and can claim to defend it through censorship. Therefore, you can not have anarchy and patents. Sorry, doesn't work that way. Private property can be defended by the individual through physical self-defense (yes guns even). In reality, intellectual property is best defended through secrecy, encryption, etc. That is up to the individual to ensure when they start a new business - the government has no jurisdiction around protection of ideas in the same way that I should not be prosecuted for playing Mozart, covering a Pink Floyd song or telling a joke by George Carlin.. That is the slipperiest of slippery slopes and leads to the circumstances we face to day with corporations basically running the world because they have the "ring of power" (government) backing them up.

Jeff Berwick has already discussed this issue - it is not outside the realm of anarchism. Most of what Libertarian Socialist refers to as "Scarcity Rent" is actually due to patents. If patents were eliminated that would mean that... 1. Being first to market or most efficient at delivery would be the key to product differentiation all things being equal. So supply chain management etc. comes into play. These things can't be done properly unless people work efficiently and communicate well. Effectively a company's profit then becomes a reward for doing those things well or better than everyone else. 2. The market cycles would be much faster with companies out duelling each other and then failing a few years down the line as other companies figure out how to so things more efficiently. But this has the effect of making everyone wealthier, driving prices down while rewarding those who are actually good at what they do vs. "scarcity rent". The profits made in such a system would be shorter lived but more equitable and would trickle through the system faster as profit would be quickly spent or reinvested in search of other efficient businesses thus increasing money velocity. It would be inefficient to hold on to profits for very long as stiff competition would preclude sitting on cash vs reinvesting.

Yikes... I've been there. I hope he's OK. I actually had something else written here but on second thought I don't think I am qualified to give advice without knowing more about his circumstances.

It's just more divide and conquer Marxists BS. There's a ton of videos online calling out the "black lives matter" crowd on their BS including several "All Lives Matter" videos which should really just be reduced to "Human Life Matters - Stop Killing People". What bothers me about the BLM crowd (mostly white liberals btw) is they specifically frame the militarization of the police state in the US as a racial issue. There are tons of videos and stories online about all kinds of people of different racial backgrounds getting beaten to a pulp, shot, pepper sprayed, tear gassed, you name it by militarized police online. How people can not see this is happening to everyone beyond me. I admit the black community has taken the worst of it but that doesn't excuse pretending like we are not all dealing with the same problem. Cultural Marxists always want to turn every issue that can really unite people into their own pet cultural revolution aimed at creating a race or sex war they can exploit.