Jump to content

Peregrine

Newbie
  • Posts

    4
  • Joined

Everything posted by Peregrine

  1. Speaking as a Christian I've always simply assumed that God, being God, isn't obligated to obey human morals and values simply because the Godhead is not human. God can no more obey our values or conception of morality than we can obey His conception of morality and His values. For example: if you assume God exists, as I do, how can you even begin to think upon how an infinitely intelligent entity (as God is generally consider to be) thinks, draws conclusions/makes decisions, solves problems, etc.? You can't and all you're left with is a non-sequitur. The closest comparison that I can think of is in the case of ETs. If ETs have a different moral values system than humans then how can we really expect them to understand or grasp ours? Quite a brain-tickler. There's more than a few passages in the Bible that make it quite clear that, while morality exists, God's morality is not human morality, that God's way of thinking is not the human way of thinking, etc. 'For My thoughts are not your thoughts: nor your ways my ways, saith the Lord.' (Isaiah 55:8) I believe Plato and his school wrestled with the idea of a source of transcendent moral order well before the emergence of Christianity and Plato's conclusions were much the same as the Christian perspective (due in no small part from copious borrowing from the Platonist by the Christians): the reason that morality exists and is therefore true is because the source of morality is, itself, of a non-human origin and is one and the same as the Creative Principle (or God). Or something like that. I haven't read from Plato's writings in a while. Cheers.
  2. An important rebuttal I'd offer to the OP is a question: What version or translation of the Bible? For example, as a Catholic, I only read from one particular version of the Bible: the Douay-Rheims, which is itself an English translation of St. Jerome's Latin Vulgate Bible. There are many countless translations of the Bible and, to be frank, some of them are crap (with the 'politically-correct' editions being at the top of the list in my mind).
  3. The first foreign war that the US fought after independence was against the Muslim pirates of North Africa, who were attacking America's maritime traffic at the time. The Barbary corsairs captured American merchant ships, enslaved American sailors, etc. and after attempting to appease, flatter, and pay off the Muslim despots the US, during Jefferson's first term, finally sent in the US Navy and a contingent of US Marines to do battle with Tripoli, which had declared war on the US when it wasn't paid the tribute it demanded in ever-increasing amounts. The US naval squadrons, and some clever diplomacy with the Ottoman governor of Egypt, had the desired effect and the first of the two Barbary Wars ended in a US victory. The moral of the story: it often takes the point of a bayonet to deal with Islam. History is rife with examples of this fact.
  4. A person would have to do more than a little bit of reading into occult topics to really understand who- and what- Aleister Crowley was. I don't think that the average person has much interest in the occult and occult groups like Aleister Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis (he didn't found the group but he was its most prominent member).
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.