Revolutionary Thinking

@Ethan Ferris Not as bad as a situation as his. The problem is that I live in an overpopulated dump (Los Angeles) I really want to work and hardly anyone is hiring. I also have a degree and vocational experience. I talk about it in detail here.

What do you mean by leveraging your relationships to get money? Also I find it kind of stupid that after so many years in our stupid education system that the only thing left after graduation from either high school and college is a shitty job. With all the years and the resources the education system has why should this be the case? Seems like some people are dumb not to be paying attention to that.

A lot of Libertarians think that no matter who your are after a certain age that it depends on how hard you work that'll determine your success in life. So can anyone come up with a reasonable rebuttal to this article and the things that are said on here? https://unemployeduscgrad.wordpress.com/2012/01/20/why-the-bootstrap-theory-is-bullshit/

Well I know I felt like I reached that point. They ask you for job experience when they aren't willing to give you the job to get the experience. I also know our education system can do a much better job of hopefully giving that experience before we graduate but, that hardly happens. Even if you have experience sometimes when you live in a high population area (like I do) there are people that are super experienced because they graduated before the recession and they are older than you so you don't have a chance when competing with them.

I also think the one saving grace in all of this is that I'm mentally stable and I have a support network. I'm just afraid for all the other people online who can come across something like this who are actually suicidal and on the verge of hurting themselves because of their pain and suffering. Instead of coming and getting sympathy and hope they'll come across people like @Wuzzums and get condescension and hatred. Sadly the atheists would be right in living in a godless world.

Can't the same thing be said about the US education system? Although I'm defending any one of them here.

You know what the ironic thing is I actually came here thinking that most people who listen to Stephan Molynuex are logical people who want to help people out. Here I see Mr. Gold Donator with 668 up votes who doesn't isn't take time to step out of his paradigm and look at things from another perspective. Truth be told this was an experiment to see if Molynuex types are actually here to help or they are only here to push an agenda and shove their philosophy down other people's throats @Fashus Maximus takes the time to listen and actually care but, other types are only interested in pushing a narrative and furthering their own stereotypes. So you're a gold donator well Money talks and we all know what walks. About the words he thinks he wasted well his words are as valuable as turds they just stink and contribute to nothing.

And FTR I don't think asking you for examples is becoming hostile. I told you to give specific examples then you became hostile then I gave you a taste of your own medicine which you found disgusting and assumed I was an SJW and then I told you I wasn't an SJW and since you don't have any rational arguments you started to down vote my stuff and not respond to any of the arguments I made until you responded to @Fashus Maximus. @Fashus Maximus on the other had disagreed with what I said with out being a jerk and we had a regular cordial and civil conversation after that. Something I don't think you'd know how to comprehend because you're more interested in attacking people and condescending to them rather than understand where they are coming from. Although I can't really blame you 100% maybe that's just the kind of culture or environment you grew up in.

http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork.org/brief/why-poverty-leads-obesity-and-life-long-problems And not all are fat either. https://www.dosomething.org/facts/11-facts-about-hunger-us

They're most likely fat because people like you are too stupid to know that high quality food in the US is pretty much off limits to people who can't afford it. If they can't afford healthy quality food because ignorant people don't give them access to jobs so they can afford those high quality foods so they end up eating cheap garbage that the same exact scumbags who put them there in that situation perpetuate their situation and have the audacity to blame them for it. Think about it we're not living in the medieval times anymore when it was a sign of wealth to be fat. Fatty foods usually cost less and EBT cards are used to access the excessive amounts of junk food that poor people eat. So the same fat people who are depressed and use fatty (comfort) foods to alleviate that depression and it's the only food they can afford because of government assistance tend to stay fat. Then if a person who is marginally over weight wants to change his lifestyle and get off of welfare by getting an education and learning a skill but, no one will hire them and he or she may not know why. Then the constant rejection leads to more eating of comfort foods to alleviate the depression he or she is facing because they can't afford to go on a vacation, or even afford the gas or the bus fare to go to the beach (let alone go to a job interview). I think they have more of a chance of staying an unhealthy weight. Then an employer who has the chance of hiring that person who can't even afford the internet payment the next month to apply to a job online and that person gets rejected. Then when that person goes online to talk to people about his situation and those same stupid ignorant people say that it's his or her fault they are going through what they are going to and they should be ashamed of themselves. Then that same stupid ignorant numb skull says "oh they are fat..." Is this ringing any bells or do you only want to see things your way and not get your head out of your behind?

@Fashus Maximus you just about summed it up.

That's really funny because if you say something like "I'm great at customer service" the employer will tell you to give an example like what you did such as "one customer was complaining about a dirty table so I quickly went to clean it up." I would never respond to the employer "oh just shut up and believe me". Which is why when I asked you for an example from your own experience or where you have seen this before you didn't come up with any and just initiated into insulting me?? Then I insulted you back. What goes around comes around. You pushed back against my narrative that's fair enough but, did you provide specific examples as to what you were talking about... no. Also I don't come to an employer with that kind of attitude I come in with a very positive attitude and do what's asked of me and more. Even then it doesn't happen and after a while it tends to get a little frustrating. I should blame myself for following their rules and doing what's asked of me?? WTF do you call that? What responsibility and ownership do you think I didn't take exactly?? What should I blame myself for exactly? If the job description says entry level job with a bachelor's degree and experience in customer service which I have both of those things and I clearly show on my resume that I have both of those things and it's what they asked for then I don't get it I should blame myself for being qualified for the job and not getting anything back? That's like going to a car dealership and the dealer telling you it's the best car in his lot and then you drive it and it breaks down in the middle of the road? I should blame myself and not the dealer? How can your common sense may be tingling but, it seems like it's running on empty...

You're just proving my point.

Also by @Wuzzums logic every Trump supporter would be an SJW and Trump would be the ultimate SJW because he keeps talking about jobs. Could you imagine if he campaigned and told everyone who lost their factory jobs that they were all being entitled snowflakes and it was their fault they didn't have a job. I'm pretty sure he'd lose the election.

@Fashus Maximus I'm so glad that your kind of thinking is actual thinking and not just jumping to conclusions. Yes these problems are a result of government coercion. I did not initiate the aggression. The problem is that I really want to do something I'm passionate about and make money for it but, it's been a hard and bumpy road. I did have some jobs in the past but, they were very dead end and I felt like a zombie in them so eventually I quit. Working my way back into the free market through entrepreneurial means is easier said than done but, I do have a YouTube page, a blog, and a shop of things that I 3D print. So far for my YouTube page I have been going out in my community asking people what they think of our current employment and education system dilemma. I also invested in a program to help me make my YouTube page to get monetized and make money through having very engaging content. It's a work in progress and I am going through these routes because nothing has been more frustrating than job hunting that puts you in a chicken and egg situation where you need experience to get experience.

@Wuzzums SJW's would support the public education system and call whoever was not in support of it and not in support of the teachers unions a fascist. In addition to that SWJ's would also be in favor of putting more bullshit into the public schools about a whole bunch of irrelevant crap that doesn't help you latter in life and only leads to the situation that I'm in now. Instead of having job skills and actual important helpful things in the high school we have a bunch of junk that doesn't help. I'm against them and the kind of garbage that they put out there. In fact all an SJW has to offer is name calling and no solutions so maybe you should have a good look in the mirror before you project your ignorance and judgement onto someone else you really know nothing about.

@Fashus Maximus You're right I'm being a little too fast to jump to conclusions. If it were truly free market it would be unschooling and then after that then more of the responsibility of not having a job would fall on that person who decided to self educate because they didn't take the time to learn something worthwhile when they were younger. As it is now I really don't blame the unemployed for what they're going through because they didn't choose their education when they were going through it. It was all forced upon them for the purpose of becoming productive citizens. I don't blame a victim of a crime for being hurt just like I don't blame the people who went through the recession for not being prepared for jobs when the current system actually did the opposite and prepared them for becoming factory workers when that work doesn't exist anymore.

SJW LOL I supported Trump. I rest my case. Next time do a little thinking before jumping to conclusions. That's the problem with people like you, you ASSume a lot of things.

Even if I was a snowflake I'd choose that over being a brainless asshole who has no solutions and just puts people down

@Wuzzums any examples or are you just speaking platitudes? Also You didn't come up with any type of numbers or anything like that it's really easy to speak about all this stuff when you provide very vague solutions and you're just pontificating.

Recently I was reading this article about the myth of the skills gap https://www.technologyreview.com/s/608707/the-myth-of-the-skills-gap/. The problem right now is that the skills gap is just a shady excuse that the jobs actually don't exist no matter how much skill and education you have. I don't know if any of you have happened to go through a period of unemployment longer than a year but, it traps you in a very ugly and annoying cycle. The problem is that Stefan addressed for most of us young people it's not a failure to launch that is our fault but, it's no where to land that we have no control over. It disgusts me that our stupid education system doesn't even help with the basics of life skills and practical skills we need to succeed in the world and gets away with teaching a bunch of random bullshit that's only going to be important on some trivia game show. My question to Libertarians is that if you guys actually believe unemployed people who are actually diligently searching for jobs and who are not in a good position because of circumstances that happened by birth should be left to starve? I think that's the one biggest problem with this free market concept is that we forget that some people's default setting are not their fault. It's also the most evil disgusting thing that happens when people put so much time and effort investing in themselves by getting more education and learning a skill but, not given some kind of guide to how they should navigate getting employment. Anyway I live in a blue state and this crap is happening to me. I think when it comes to issues like helping the unemployed for the people who are actually being diligent and working to improve themselves but, getting nothing in return all sides of the Political party are tone deaf and ignorant including libertarians.

It's been 10 years since I graduated from my totally useless and unhelpful high school and I went back to see what was happening since I left. A little social experiment. No surprise to me it was the same useless dump it always was.

@Dylan Lawrence Moore You're preaching to the choir. I made this video myself My question is with so many stupid companies requiring a degree and not having enough money to invest in a business. What's the first step we take in getting out of this system?

@robert1986 I know all too well what you're talking about. When I was in school I hated the idea of voluntarily going back again for a "degree." I hoped that I'd get a job asap out of high school start small and then work my way up in the company. I said to myself the four year colleges are too expensive so I'll go to a community college and while I'm going I'll look for a job. My first year of community college I hardly had any luck finding a job. Then the 2008 recession hit and that's when things got really really bad. All these crappy jobs were asking for four year degrees and I just thought the world was so messed up. After I got my AA degree from community college it just landed me a job in fast food that I could get even if I dropped out of high school. So while I was working fast food I went to get a BA and I didn't take out any loans. In my opinion the entire education system is screwed from the start because the stupid high schools don't teach anything remotely valuable and that's why degrees are required for even the easiest of jobs that a monkey can do. It's basically like a cartel on the employers end because the employer is too stupid to look at things like creativity and originality. At least you had the chance to get 15 years of life experience but, when I was growing up these dumb employers wanted me to have experience while no one was willing to give any.

It's been about a week since my uncle passed away. It's true that he was a kind, friendly and generous person and I'll miss him. The thing is though there's no denying the fact that he was smoking way more than he should've been (preferably people shouldn't even smoke at all). He also liked alcohol but, he wouldn't exactly get drunk. There is a link between smoking, alcohol and cancer. Anyway in the few days that have passed we went to his "site" where he was being buried and at one moment people were "celebrating" his life by all having a "drink" not only that some people were even smoking there themselves and have continued to smoke after this happened. I kept thinking to myself exactly just how ignorant do they have to be by not taking the time to introspect on how unhealthy these habits actually are. Not only that but, increasingly the majority of people never ask themselves questions or introspect on their lives until it's too late. We are all going to Temple and reciting a whole bunch of prayers but, the majority of people will never think to themselves why am I just blindly coming here and do these things? They just do it because they're used to it and that's what they were always doing. Tribalism in itself is a disease. Elders aren't that smart if you ask me. All the older people in my family are around the people that they are around because they come from the same culture/religion/family background. Never do they ask themselves maybe there is more to the world than just the people I'm used to being around or the things that I am doing right now. Tribalism and hive mind go hand in hand. People do things because their parents did it, their friends and family are doing it, and they're so used to it because they did it for such a long time. I on the other hand will never squander my life with tribalism and hive mind I will always question things till the very end and also take a moment for introspection. The other thing that sucks in our world are impulsive people. This is why our world is in the crappy situation that it's in. People instead of taking the time to really analyse things and taking proper action after that almost NEVER do even when you make it clear to them all they do is get angry at you. Look no further than online when you are looking for these ignorant impulsive people. They hear or read one thing and jump to conclusions in a drop of hat. Look at our Politics. I really don't understand how people can be so ignorant. I on the other hand am sick and tired of sometimes trying to make people aware of this and them not listening. While I was sitting there at the graveyard thinking to myself why these people were celebrating the same substances and doing the same habits that gave my uncle an early death I couldn't help but, think to myself no matter how old they were they were still children. I think that older people are under the illusion that they know so much more than a 5 or 6 year old but, in reality they are that same 5 or 6 year old. Stubbornness is a trait that amplifies people's link to tribalism, hive mind, and being impulsive. The worst of the worst is when these people breed and they have children or family members who go against this low consciousness stuff but, they try to suck them into the low consciousness abyss by getting frustrated why their children/family members/friends aren't more like them. I'm just wondering if anyone can relate to this. I think the best idea for me is to make friend who GET THIS. Together we can find the secrets and mysteries to life instead of living like impulsive and tribalist dummies who ruin the world with our stubbornness and refusal to self retrospect.