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The European, especially the German politicians, leaders and media aren't stupid - they are corrupt and undemocratic. Muslim immigration into Europe via Germany is not an accident or a mistake - it's a well-devised plan, for thirty years now negotiated with the MENA states, but never discussed with the EU citizens. Laid down in papers of the UN and EU, it is slowly coming into fruition. 30-60 million people, this number is taken from "slipped" information, are to resettle in the north to make up for lost children and a demographic vacuum in Europe, thereby relieving demographic pressures in the MENA states. "Our land, our money, our civilisation, for their people, their oil, their power" - that's it, more or less, in a nutshell. It's basically an imperialistic expansion, and probably includes aiming to introduce the Euro as an energy-backed currency in those states as well. And Gaddafi (of Libya) and Assad (of Syria) probably just refused to step aside in time. - Everything else is a sham. You need proof? ---- For starters, have a look at this from article from 2007: https://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2018 Eurocrat Empire Building From the desk of Paul Belien on Wed, 2007-03-28 07:47 On Sunday, the European Union celebrated its 50th anniversary. The EU was established on March 25, 1957, when its six founding states (Germany, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxemburg) signed the Treaty of Rome. They solemnly declared that they would aim for "an ever closer union." As a first step towards the goal of political unification the six states decided to integrate their economies. They have meanwhile been joined by 21 other European countries. ... Empires, however, are carnivorous monsters. They have to keep growing in order to avoid unraveling. Hence, they inevitably grow ever more totalitarian and expansionist. The EU is interfering more and more in the daily lives of its subjects. At the same time, its territory continues to expand, from the original six members to the present 27. By definition, there is no end to this process. The Leviathan has to be fed. ... Five years ago, Louis Michel, then the Belgian minister of foreign affairs and at present a member of the European Commission, told the Belgian parliament that eventually the EU will encompass the entire Mediterranean basin, including North Africa and the Middle East. ---------------- End of this Brussels Journal article So I did a bit of research, and I am still reeling under the magnitude of treason and conspiracy of this snake pit I have accidentally stumbled across. This looks like the greatest sellout in European History. My take on it is: Unite and Conquer: My country for your Power. Yes, there are snakes (and ladders) everywhere. Some hidden, some out in the open. But this is the poisonous one - and NOBODY will touch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnW30dYSC3k So, buying people for money - what was that called again? Ah, yes. We will end human trafficking, say the biggest human traffickers of all time. Thirty to sixty million! Not even the transatlantic slave trade had that volume! What they mean is: We will throw those who mooch in on our business into jail. And I'd say anyone that goes for your throat, for calling out these people, is in on the deal, with or without their knowledge. For years and decades now, the people of Europe -who were never asked, by the way- are wondering how it is, that their elected politicians are prone to act so blatantly stupid against their constituents' interests; it drives them to public desperation, that the people they elect, once in office, all seem to suddenly become inept at doing their job. But what if this 'sudden onset stupidity' is not ineptitude at all, but on the contrary the introduction to a clandestine deal, forged with foreign powers, over two decades ago? Which would also be about the time in history one can pinpoint, as the one when European politicians suddenly became so unbelievably stupid. These European politicians keep lullabying and distracting their population with faux debates, on how much border control and security is needed, vs. granting asylum to those poor refugees, when they, for over two decades now and behind their constituents' backs, have been cutting deals with the south Mediterranean Arab states outside that southern border: Our land for their people, our women for their men, our civilization for their power, one huge political superstate encompassing the Mediterranean Sea, one currency for all. Wealth and power to the elite of all those involved, none for the downtrodden, take it away from them. They keep telling us it is about "humanitarianism", and "fugitives" fleeing terrible states of affairs in their home countries ever since the "Arab Spring" in 2010, culminating in a "refugee crisis" in 2015. Well, have a look at this map: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Union_for_the_Mediterranean_-_updatable.svg Or these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertec So from 1995 onwards the EU met up with the leaders of the Mediterranean Arab states to talk about an ever closer political, economic and cultural relationship, and no discrimination, all religions, all languages, all cultures are equal, everywhere, no need for anyone to integrate themselves anywhere? Treating Morocco and Israel and whoever to the Eurovision Song Contest and other small things, talking about rigging up the European solar power supply (Desertec) in their countries "as soon as they are politically stable", then bombing their governments to shreds with the help of their allies - the uncooperative and uppity ones, I suspect, that wanted to keep their on power structure and currency, like Libya and perhaps Syria - and then throwing open their own northern countries' internal and later their external borders, this illegally, to the surplus peoples of the now- defunct south Mediterranean states? Thus relieving them of criminals, madmen, revolutionaries and other demographic pressure, by the way. What was out minister of the exterior doing in Egypt during the Arab Spring? Negotiating what? What's with Europe's financial connection to Palestine? Who will get the Euro next: Egypt or Morocco? My tip is Morocco. And then what's left of Syria? Or will it go to Jordan? Coated as "refugee relief"? It could be Palestine as well... Oh, look (one of the two seems to be more accurate than the other): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DOLLAR_AND_EURO_IN_THE_WORLD.svg https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Verwendung_des_Euro_und_daran_gekoppelter_Währungen_weltweit.svg Could it be that this whole "Islam & Muslim Refugee Integration" business is one unbelievably huge hoax? It isn't the Arabs taking over Europe, it's the other way round, a joint venture at top level, without asking anyone's consent or approval? A hostile or friendly takeover, whichever way? Are they trying to erect a new quasi- Roman Empire, and to hell with the original population, what we need is slaves, and let' em cut each other's throats? We do not need those who will not bow to us? Is this all a gigantic Euro Ponzi Scheme as well? We get the wealth, the new billion-dollar philharmonics concert hall, and the gated palaces, with our new friends the Arab rulers, you get the debt, the nights of terror and the boot camps? They have the oil and solar power, we have the factories, and you have nothing? We want to treat you like they treat theirs? We will trade in your ancient civilization for their even more ancient rule over abject subjects? Well, look up the "Barcelona Declaration" from 1995 and the "Union for the Mediterranean (UFM)" and your eyes will be opened. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=LEGISSUM:r15001 It can even be found on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_for_the_Mediterranean A summary: http://balder.org/avisartikler/Barcelona-Declaration-Euro-Mediterranean-English.php https://ec.europa.eu/research/iscp/pdf/policy/barcelona_declaration.pdf And, of course, look for "replacement migration" papers from 2001 at the UN. Replacement Migration: Is It a Solution to Declining and Ageing Populations? http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/pdf/ageing/replacement-cover.pdf http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/ReplMigED/Germany.pdf Even the bombing of the Arab Spring and the following "regime changes" makes so much more sense in that context - not that they didn't mess it up a bit, but, hey, who cares for collateral damage, if nobody knows? And as for Soros and the funding of the NGOs - who says the NGOs aren't secretly government led and funded? The latter they are, in a variety of ways. Perhaps led as well. Who else but a European Government in collusion with those around the Mediterranean could have thrown so many government wrenches into the way of a boat called C-Star in so many different countries in and around the Mediterranean - in Egypt, Malta, Cyprus, Sicily, and Tunisia? Only half of them formally belong to the EU. So is there a third party aboard in this, besides international crime and Soros? The as yet informal UFM perhaps? After all, these are GOVERNMENT representatives and agencies: "The EU should "do its best to undermine" the "homogeneity" of its member states, the UN's special representative for migration has said. Peter Sutherland told peers the future prosperity of many EU states depended on them becoming multicultural. He also suggested the UK government's immigration policy had no basis in international law." (Well, guess why not; see above), in: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18519395 The then vice president of the EU-Kommission, Frans Timmermans, is quoted with: "Diversity is now in some parts of Europe seen as a threat. Diversity comes with challenges. But diversity is humanity's destiny. There is not going to be, even in the remotest places of this planet, a nation that will not see diversity in its future. That's where humanity is heading. And those politicians trying to sell to their electorates a society that is exclusively composed of people from one culture, are trying to portray a future based on a past that never existed, therefore that future will never be. Europe will be diverse, like all other parts of the world will be diverse. The only question is, how do we deal with that diversity? And my answer to that is, by ensuring that our values determine how we deal with diversity and not giving up our values to refuse diversity. That will bring us down as a society. If we don't get this right, I truly believe Europe will not remain the Europe we built. Europe will not remain a place of peace and freedom, for very long." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SO2irtSTeg --- So, all in all, I submit to you: - Europe, geographically, was sold, by it's own government assembly, some 25 years ago, to foreign governments, for citizens of these other countries, faiths and cultures. The Barcelona Declaration of 1995 is an expression of this. - The reason given internally is the aging and shrinking of the European population; this can be described as a form of human trafficking, if not slavery, on one side, and fraud, larceny and thievery on the other; if force is threatened (which is and will be), it is robbery. And, by the way, it takes away their every agency: no matter what the Europeans decide to do, or how they want to be, it shall be thwarted, should the need arise. - The newcomers were informally, there, if clandestinely, here, promised full citizenship without integration. The citizens of Europe were promised the opposite. - The migrants of 2015 were literally told (and we never found out by whom, but they said so in early interviews), that they not only could MAKE Germany their home (that's where the most money is to be had), but that Germany (or Europe, 99% of them wouldn't know the difference) WAS their new home, along with a car, a house, a wife, and all the had to utter was the magic word "Asylum", the concept of which they do not understand ; they take it as "iftah ya simsim" or "Open, Sesame" for the riches of Europe. Which ist true, but fraudulent. - The member states' bureaucracy then processes the migrants formally as asylum seekers, and rightly so deny it to over 90% of them. The migrants do not understand it, the locals do not understand it - because it is indeed a huge European government fraud. The migrants then turn to a life of crime, to pay back the huge bribes they owe their families and the Mafia, usually thousands of dollars. - This discrepancy between government words and government action was never discussed in Europe in public; the Europeans were never asked, and now they are told the game is up anyway. But they are still lied to as why. The clandestine government treaties are still not being discussed. - And now these traders in human lives pretend to the world that it is about "refugees" and "integration" - a contradiction in itself, and a) pretend to be taken by surprise by the situation, and to be too stupid and inept to handle it and b) blame their constituents for being mean, selfish and inhumane. - And that the Europeans' incomes and lifetimes savings were de facto and clandestinely confiscated in 1995 and forfeited by the European government, to pay for surplus people from elsewhere to come into and live in and live off in Europe, is still being denied. - All of this did happen after the fall of communism in eastern Europe, but I suppose it was already being prepared for in the west, because of the known demographics, so that the citizens of eastern part of Europe (and Germany, in fact) are even more taken aback at what they are told is to be. - Or, even more sinister, Eastern Europe was reigned in as the EU's expansion to the east, the Mediterranean was to be it's expansion to the south. That just turned out to be more difficult; there were more and different people to deal with. This kind of policy used to be called "Volk ohne Raum", it's just a different room and folks this time. The timeline of the early deals would fit this picture. - This is especially visible in Germany, as more rules had to be changed there; for instance, the citizenship by descent (a child of German citizens is a German citizen) had to be, and was, changed to citizenship by birth (a child born in Germany is a German citizen) to facilitate the thousand of anchor babies now being born in Germany, making them all European citizens. - There is even talk of issuing an up-to-now- unavailable "European citizenship" to, and only to, migrants in Limbo, who have legally and rightfully been denied their fraudulent asylum, but cannot be sent back, thus making them special citizens in a way. The European government is still defrauding it's own citizenry, lying in public, and giving fraudulent instructions to their administration. And they know it (but the people don't; the migrants don't, and the citizens don't). http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10967168/Jean-Claude-Junckers-most-outrageous-political-quotations.html And so they go on lying to their own people, to push this 25 year old deal through against their electorates' will and knowledge; for after robbing and disenfranchising them, they will have a new people, which they will have bought with their electorates' own money. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Lösung Stating that the people Had forfeited the confidence of the government And could win it back only By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier In that case for the government To dissolve the people And elect another? ---- Addendum: *the uncooperative ... ones, ... like Libya and perhaps Syria: Found it - in German: https://www.bmz.de/de/ministerium/wege/ez_eu/eu-wege/mittelmeeranrainer/index.html Google translation: "To create a zone of peace, democracy, stability, cooperation and prosperity is the aim of the Euromediterranean partnership. It was launched in 1995 at a Foreign Ministers' Conference in Barcelona and is therefore also called the Barcelona Process. The partnership has since formed the basis for relations between the countries of Europe and the Mediterranean region. In order to further improve the basis for this cooperation and strengthen the partnership of cooperation, the participating States have decided to expand the Barcelona process. On July 13, 2008 the new partnership "Union for the Mediterranean" (UfM) was founded in Paris. ... The Union for the Mediterranean region comprises 43 governments representing more than 700 million people. In addition to the 28 EU Member States, all Mediterranean countries (except Libya) and Jordan and Mauritania belong to the UfM. (Syria's participation has been suspended since 2011). ... The Union's focus on the Mediterranean is based on a partnership in the context of specific projects. New to the Barcelona process are, above all, the establishment of a co-presidency (North / South) and a permanent secretariat for the selection, preparation and implementation of the projects. The UfM Secretariat started its work in 2010 and is headquartered in Barcelona. ... The Union for the Mediterranean complement the existing relations the EU has with its Mediterranean partner countries. In addition to the European Neighborhood Policy of the EU, it is a platform for dialogue and regional projects. Existing Association Agreements, Action Plans and EU action will continue. The UfM plays an important role for regional cooperation, as it also covers Israel and Turkey as a regional forum. Since 2007, relations with partner countries in the Mediterranean region have been financed by the European Neighborhood Instrument (ENI) as part of the European Neighborhood Policy (ENP). More information about the European Neighborhood Policy can be found here (link)." https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bmz.de%2Fde%2Fministerium%2Fwege%2Fez_eu%2Feu-wege%2Fmittelmeeranrainer%2Findex.html&edit-text= And somewhat differently, in English: http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/regions/euro-mediterranean-partnership/ The Middle East and North Africa: Called the MENA states; here are the official German objectives in that region: "Building bridges between Europe and the Arab world States in the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) have been important development cooperation partners for Germany for many years, due to their global political significance and geographical proximity to Europe. Germany is cooperating with a total of eleven countries in the region. Its average annual commitments for development cooperation of 400 million Euros make Germany the second-largest donor there after the USA. The MENA region stretches south of the Mediterranean Sea from Morocco to Egypt, and east of the Mediterranean from Yemen to the Gulf states and on to Syria and Iraq. The high rate of population growth is a major challenge for countries in the region, many of which suffer from resource scarcity and rising unemployment. German development cooperation in the region is a contribution to the long-term peace policy of the German government. The priority areas of cooperation are geared to the region's core problems and most significant development potentials: water, energy, sustainable economic development and education." http://www.bmz.de/en/countries_regions/naher_osten_mittelmeer/index.html Concerning MENA: The big one they leave out, of course, is Saudi Arabia, THE oil-producing power in the Middle East, which recycles it's petrodollars to German armaments, amongst other things. I wouldn't be surprised if the British decision to Brexit from the EU and side with the US had a lot to do with what will happen if the EU tries to buy Saudi Oil with Euros (the British not having adopted the Euro anyway). If you really want to delve into the bureaucracy and papers involved in the highly official "Muslim / Arab - European Dialog", go to: (In German, around pages 99-105) https://books.google.de/books?id=LvLWBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA104&lpg=PA104&dq=nord+süd+kommission+dialog+"barcelona"&source=bl&ots=2xuhvSarHY&sig=LX2s1B_NCmVfbywmWF3szNC8GDA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjc6o_Oms_WAhXEIVAKHeOfAC4Q6AEIMjAD#v=onepage&q=nord süd kommission dialog "barcelona"&f=false And for recent goings-on, straight to http://ufmsecretariat.org/ But for the 2008 paper on the European Parliament resolution on the Barcelona Process: Union for the Mediterranean, ending in the words: "19. Stresses the need for projects under the Barcelona Process: Union for the Mediterranean to be open to all EU states and Mediterranean partners interested in taking part, especially if they are stakeholders in specific projects or fields; 20. Considers that a fourth chapter of cooperation – on Migration, Social Integration, Justice and Security – should be included and added to the three chapters in the Barcelona Declaration, which provides for Political Dialogue, Economic Cooperation and Free Trade, and Human, Social and Cultural Dialogue, which are the backbone of Euro-Mediterranean relations; 21. Notes the role of migrants in the development of their home countries and of the EU; calls at the same time for stepped-up cooperation between EU and third countries in order to fully implement the EU plan on legal migration; considers that the Barcelona Process: Union for the Mediterranean should take this dimension into account in order to create an area of freedom and security; 22. Calls on the Commission to inform Parliament and the EMPA on a regular basis about how these regional projects are developing and to consider the proposals and evaluations submitted at parliamentary level with a view to raising the profile of the process and increasing take-up capacity and added value for citizens in the region; 23. Instructs its President to forward this resolution to the Council and the Commission, the EU Member States and the governments and parliaments of the partner countries." http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//TEXT+MOTION+B6-2008-0291+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN That's where it was hidden, smuggled in and pasted into the bottom of the resolution, after more than ten years of negotiating "Dialogue" and "Free Trade". Where does a wise man hide some words? In a paper. It is always done that way. Read them VERY CAREFULLY. Note the one word that does not turn up is: "Refugees" We are being had. The EU and MENA government-created Union for the Mediterranean, with seat in Barcelona, under its current Secretary General Fathallah Sijilmassi, is -in its own words- "bringing together 43 countries to promote cooperation in the Euro-Mediterranean region" on every subject from schooling to business, energy and sports, migration, job opportunities and multiculturalism; for details, see, with 30.000+ followers, https://twitter.com/hashtag/ufm?lang=de https://twitter.com/UfMSecretariat?lang=de or go to http://ufmsecretariat.org/workshop-migration-mediterranean/ - and yet our European national governments, here the German one, tell us nothing of this, nothing of the 25 years of negotiating and nothing of the 10 years of conferring on a daily basis with the countries of emigration; they act surprised when the prepared happens; they talk of uncontrollable refugees, instead of migration by treaty; say they don't know and can't tell where they came from; they have no idea where their "refugees" got the idea that they would be furnished with a house, a car, steady money and a wife, a new identity and never mind their past, or who gave them the picture of benevolent Frau Merkel welcoming them in; that they therefore cannot be sent back; they uttered the magic word; that we must adapt to help them integrate into our society; and so on. And then, oh, they just conjure up this inexplicable magic number of max 200,000 entries per annum, and give no idea as to why that number exactly, either. It could turn out to be higher, though, as none will be turned back at the newly none- existent borders anyway. Remarkably, too, all of this is happening under the supervision, command and control of NATO. And without any press coverage whatsoever. Shouldn't they be celebrating this exemplary international and intercultural cooperation in human tr... whatever? Every other international cooperation gets publicly lauded, so why not this one? There will be a reason, won't there? Oh, the Hypocrisy of it all. The only truth in it is that there is no alternative for them to act on, as international treaties and requirements have to be fulfilled. Do they? They were never discussed or ratified in national Parliament; and even if, they could be revoked. Now, if you calculate the 200,000 migrants, into Germany alone, that the UN stipulates as a yearly minimum from the year 2005 onwards, then the 1.5 million that came into Europe in 2015 were but a fraction of the total; there should have been a million more, just for Germany, by now, so - bring in their families! Ve must fulfil ze treaties! What would happen if all of this became widely known? --- One more update: It did not come from nothing. Some say the whole deal ultimately dates back even to the first oil crisis of 1973, when the growth-dependent European leaders, receiving just 5% less of crude oil and that at a much higher price, found themselves in utter life dependency on the Arab world, and basically offered Europe to the Arabian people (who had always coveted it) in return for their bitterly-needed oil: https://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1401 Traitors, one and all, for selling out their people; so I would say. From the German source - I cannot verify this; but guess who turns up, right at the very beginning of this history? That's right, "The Colonel", Muammar al-Gaddafi the Colourful - who seems, in hindsight, to have been the most honest of the lot, if not to say naive; Europeans and Arabians the like, you name it: "Pompidous campaigning for a Euro-Arab dialogue in the then EEC states was apparently successful, as in 1973, the French Undersecretary for Foreign Affairs, Jean-Noel de Lipkowski, initiated talks on a Euro-Arab dialogue with the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi. In November, French President Georges Pompidou and West German Chancellor Willy Brandt met to consolidate the project of engaging in dialogue with the Arabs. Due to Pompidous efforts, a European summit was launched in December 14.-15. in Copenhagen, setting in motion the Euro-Arab dialogue." Some 40 years later, in 2011, the movement of the Arabian and other immigrants was set in motion with the attack upon and execution on the battlefield of the same Colonel Gaddafi, at that time still the Libyan leader - and one of the very few high- ranking witnesses of the complete procedure still alive, and who therefore could have talked; that would potentially have compromised the deal, and he did give out a few dark warnings to enhance his position, cut some extra and be allowed to stay in power. For whatever reason it was, he was done away with. Now, as far as I can tell from a hint here and there, the handing over was to be realized and the European borders to be opened by 2010, so things were already behind schedule. Then in 2015, things were finally set in motion, the millions of immigrants from then on being sold to the European natives as "war refugees" and their entry being wangled over phony claims to asylum, the over 90% rejection of which does not matter either way, as everybody is allowed to stay anyway and bring the family in notwithstanding. As it looks like from the outside, the deal was also to keep everything under covers (typically, the papers on these matters are publicized ten years after they are signed; so there should be more as yet unknown and unpublicized papers on this matter in the pipeline right now), and wait with the physical takeover until every one of the deal brokers on the European side was dead; it would take some decades to negotiate the handing over of a whole continent anyway, and if things became known, resistance was to be expected. I does look like, well, the perpetrators counted of reaping the benefits while not themselves paying the price; the oil was calculated to be running out by that time anyway. And it did work out that way, for them. "We'll hand over the keys to our cities for the firewood we need to keep ourselves warm, not to you, for the people would notice; and they would resist; but these will be bequeathed unto your children, while ours won't exactly know what happened, when it hits them." ---
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The EU, for 30 years now, has been secretly negotiating with the MENA states of the southern and eastern Mediterranean: - Our land, our money, our civilisation for their people, their oil, their power. They get to come in, we get to take over. And yes, this may result in civil war. It's basically an imperial expansion, and probably includes aiming to introduce the Euro as an energy-backed currency in those states as well. And Gaddafi (of Libya) and Assad (of Syria) probably just refused to step aside. - Everything else is a sham. There is no 'refugee crisis', as migrants are not refugees. ---