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@barn you really want me to respond to this? If so, I'll ask you to pick a specific thing (or things) he mentions, then we can discuss.

@RichardY I agree that killing an animal per se is not immoral. E.g. if I'm being attacked by an animal, I will protect myself. If that means killing the animal, then so be it. I'll ask you the same question that I asked barn: Hypothetically, if a vegan diet were nutritionally adequate, would you go vegan?

Thanks @barn. You're right, an unplanned vegan diet is pretty stupid. I'd say any unplanned diet is stupid. Hypothetically, if a vegan diet were nutritionally adequate, would you go vegan? I believe the NAP is "I won't harm you, so you don't harm me"

For starters, the "needless" context is satisfied with this statement from the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics: "appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle" If it's not wrong to needlessly kill animals, is it wrong to needlessly kill humans? If yes, this implies there is a difference/some differences between animals and humans that allowed you to make this distinction. What are these traits? If you applied these traits back onto a human context, would it be okay to needlessly kill the human? Please consider going vegan