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I'm listening to this podcast, and am not an expert in either topic, but am familiar to some degree my own experiences in the economy, with the State, with the market. Peter is missing (at this point in the podcast) the point, in my opinion, that the "structural violence" he speaks of truly must be considered as a direct outcome of the State's interference with the free market. His continued attempt at belittling Stefan, even after being told over and over again, quite respectfully, mind you, feels to me like an intellectual mind run amuck in the keyword dictionary mentality of his own mind. He is insulting, and I am feeling a little frustration at his style of speaking. On the other hand, Stefan is so calm and patient, I find it almost laughable the longer I listen to Peter's voice, so much to say without really saying what is sort of provable, he is what is the word...pompous? I don't mean to be insulting. It is an interesting discussion, but the discussion part is difficult to follow at times due to the lack of a breath moment by Peter. People can certainly pause and take a moment without having to spew forth without pause in order to communicate the points within. Now I'm doing it. Taking a breath. Anyway, thank you for the podcast, you really are inspiring to me, Stefan.