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Firstly I would like to apologies to the moderator as this is copied from another thread which I replied to earlier. please excuse the repast I'll only do it once. Hi, thanks for your reply. Im now going to give an indepth report on what I have found out in nearly one year of learning this subject. I encourage you to not believe what I say believe in the facts and data which are available on the net. Just google an information point from here and look for data not that corrisponds to what I have said, but information that should corrispond to facts i have pointed out. Peak oil information goes far and deep but still surprisingly little compared to the effect it will have on everyones lives. Supply and demand work fine with adaquate alternatives. However there is no alternative to oil. There is alternatives to energy but not oil. Oil's energy density, ease of transport, and existing inverstructure, and diversity have no alternatives. Also not only do alternatives need 50 years of inferstructure to implement but massive investment and capital is required and in this day and age it's a bit late and were all a bit poor unless your Singapor, China, Russia, and suadi arabia, whom are all already on that road. The reason were all poor is also because of peak oil. Yes it's that important. Oil is the life blood of an economy. As economy grows, so must oil consumption and when oil becomes expensive specifically over $100 a barrel it sends economys into recession and contracts an economy. If you look up the facts (which your should, and don't believe me read the data) every recession has happened when an oil shock or price jump has occured. And yes I know correlation is not always causation but in this case it is the data supports it. With Saudi Arabia being on the cusp of revoluion who knows what'll happen to oil as Quatar is the largest known oil reserve on the planet and literaly every super power wants it desperately. All money is basically a representation of resources so it helps to think of money as oil especially the dollar which is only backed by oil. oil will never run out just get really expensive and eventurally when it takes more oil (money, energy, investment ect) to get oil as in oil extracted, then it's no longer economically viable to produce. This is a hard scientifict fact ~exponential growth cannot go on forever~ the law of entrophy. If fact growth is bad after a point nothing can grow forever. youtube Dr Albert Bartlett: Arithmetic, Population and Energy. for a great easy lesson on this. No one in the main stream are willing to admit were gonna have to change our culture and way of life. Prices of oil quadrupled in 10 years. in 20-40 years only the super rich are going to be able to fly in a plane were are in depletion rates of 8% per year globally. This is faster than anyone anticipated. The scarier fact is that oil is not only the lifeblood of economies but populations too. As oil consumtion increased world population has too and it's my personal opinion that globaly more people will die in the next 200 year that ever before or ever again because of the lack of energy to keep as all alive. Maybe we'll all imbrace food forests and permaculture as it only takes 5-10 years to set up and have a limitless supply of food providing the environment can support it but will we be in time. No one knows. After researching this for nearly a year i have learned that good things to do is own your home no mortgage, have a garden, farm animals, and basically get as off grid as much as possible while creating redundencies, own precious metals as savings. Also it's better to be a producer than in the service section and having a diverse skill list is vastly more usefull than a specialised one. I recommed learning these skills also they're very interesting to. Tree trainig, animal husbandry, permaculture, fishing, repair work, butchery, cooking. These are a few skills that will help. Im fucked because im 23 with no resources to my name hoping to get experience in these areas and marry into a permaculture family hahah. Good Luck to you all and I hope you take this information and inquire into peak oil as it will effect your life dramatically directly and indirectly. p.s inquire with me if you want clarification on a premis or something and i'll help. Hey if us philosophers handle the crisees? better than the matrix users than were gonna have a great chance to 'preach the truth with scientific validity'. aka Philosophy. Doesn't that sound sexy. Peace~