lifelibertynow Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 [View:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7rfWUb4whU]
thornyd Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Awesome work, I really like your channel. The video "Celebrities call to ban guns from government" with the images of devastation in the middle-east was very moving.
Libertus Posted January 14, 2013 Posted January 14, 2013 Excellent video and a fair representation of Beck's supposed "libertarianism".
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ThomasTheIdealist Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 While I agree that he's a terrible libertarian, I don't agree that everything you used as counter-examples. Now, I don't follow Beck very much, so my impressions very well could be inaccurate. For starters, I'm not convinced that he supports financial aid to Israel, but he does indeed seem to be in support of taxes in general. However it's unfortunately very common for "libertarians" to fail to completely understand that taxation is theft. Even Ron Paul isn't against taxation, but you can't claim he isn't a libertarian. But as far as Israel goes, I think Glenn Beck wants the US and citizens to support Israel in a more political/diplomatic sense, instead of financial: I'm not sure where exactly Beck differs from Ron Paul on foreign policy, but Glenn Beck is a non-interventionist, evidently. Getting one of your quotes in context: http://www.glennbeck.com/2011/12/13/ron-paul-over-newt-gingrich/ “I disagree vehemently with Ron Paul’s foreign policy. I think his foreign policy is a danger to the country, a danger to Israel. I absolutely agree with that. But I agree with Ron Paul economically,” Glenn said. As for Paul’s non-interventionist foreign policy, Glenn said that people who want to help countries like Israel can continue to do so as individuals. He stressed “we are not our government.” In my view, it appears that Beck is against the notion of treating all foreign countries equally instead of showing some sort of political favoritism toward countries that share our (rather "his") values. And in regards to the portion of the video where he bashed on Ron Paul supporters, I looked it up and I share his view, and it's definitely not an neo-conservative one: http://www.examiner.com/article/glenn-beck-ron-paul-people-i-have-had-it-up-to-here He was speaking to all the fanatics who were advocating voting for Ron Paul as a write-in even though he wasn't running. Additionally, he was likely against voting for Gary Johnson. There is nothing anti-libertarian about being pragmatic. Despite being an idealist, I also encouraged people to vote for Romney if they lived in a swing state. I don't live in a swing state, so I voted for Gary Johnson. It was no secret that the actual race was only between Romney and Obama, and it is therefore logical, and consistent with libertarian views, to vote for the one which is the closest to libertarian. While many think it is important to "make a point" by sacrificing actual results, I don't. Anyhow, my conclusion is that Glenn Beck is about as libertarian as Ron Paul. They both are statists to an extent, but at least they're helping support positions that move the country in the right direction.
tasmlab Posted January 29, 2013 Posted January 29, 2013 That Glenn Beck has picked up the title 'libertarian' is a good enough reason to start identifying yourself as an anarchist instead, if just to avoid people spitting on you at cocktail parties.
cjtkirk Posted February 2, 2013 Posted February 2, 2013 I don't think Romney (based on his history) is any closer to libertarian than Obama. But that, of course, is just my opinion based on reading his record. Also, Ron Paul is on record as being against ANY income tax (which is one of the worst forms of taxation). I do agree with your comments about Beck. He often gets painted in a bad light by purists. Anyone with Beck's views would have made a FAR better choice for president than Romney or Obama.
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