Chisleu Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 WARNING! Do not flame me. I am still a firm believer in evolution. We have countless datasets proving that evolution exists. This is merely a very interesting scientific video. It shows a mechanical biological process that may suggest our cell process may have been intelligently designed rather than evolving from the randomness in a pool containing amino acids. It's my understanding, and I could very well be wrong, that there is no direct evidence of any sort that says the first cells billions of years ago evolved from the primordial pools. It's merely a hypothesis because "god" doesn't exist. I do NOT believe in "god". However science leaves the posibility of intelligent design by hither-to unseen forces (aliens, etc), in my opinion. At the very least, this is one hell of an amazing system to have evolved, and I hope you can appreciate that without the ID crap the narrator throws in. [View:http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XI8m6o0gXDY] P.S. I'm in a bioinformatics class as a part of my computer science studies. My teacher, who is extremely well respected here, who I've known for over a decade as a man of science and incredible intelligence in the computer science, made the very bold statement that he thinks our cells were "carefully and fearfully designed". I don't know (or really care) what his personal religious beliefs are. I am very interested to see more videos like this though, if anyone has them!!!
Chisleu Posted February 12, 2013 Author Posted February 12, 2013 I would be very interested to find other versions of this mechanical process in other animal's cells. Perhaps we could find different versions suggesting the little pump evolved naturally. If we have any biology buffs on here that can point me in the right direction for such info, I would be greatly appreciative.
Magnus Posted February 12, 2013 Posted February 12, 2013 Amazing! It's incredible to me that such a thing is even knowable. It does leave me with a question -- who designed the designers?
Chisleu Posted February 14, 2013 Author Posted February 14, 2013 Amazing! It's incredible to me that such a thing is even knowable. It does leave me with a question -- who designed the designers? It's possible the designers evolved from pools of amino acids on thier planets, but where the hell did the planets come from? It's so easy to materialists to take for granted the multiverse. I do not. I think this is partly due to my possibly too-open mindedness. Since I made the original post, I've come to find that the ATP Synthase is found in various forms in most/all living things. Plants, Animals, etc. It's found in the Archaea (sp?) that are one of the oldest known branches of life evolution on Earth suggesting it likely existed VERY early in the evolution of the single cell organisms forever-some years ago. This is VERY interesting and certainly doesn't rise to the level required to call it "proof" of anything, but it is a VERY interesting scientific FACT, none the less. What times we live in.
JamesP Posted February 14, 2013 Posted February 14, 2013 I haven't yet watched the video but the meta-argument about intelligent design reveals two things to me: 1) people will always find a way to see what's not there; and2) there is still so much we don't actually know about how things work, even considering how much we already know... it really ought to be fascinating and exciting rather than an opportunity for shysters to push their lies.
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