MysterionMuffles Posted March 13, 2013 Share Posted March 13, 2013 Is probably the first movie to disturb me psychologically. Never mind the molestation Nina Seyers receives from her pervy, yet otherwise brilliant director, the movie is a great introspection on narciccism. She sees herself in others but not in a way that respects the oneness amongst, but in a way that she breeds nothing but envy for everyone else who she thinks deserves more than her. Also her sheer determination to be the best ballerina is just sickening to the point that makes you wonder where the line is drawn between passion and obsession. I highly recommend you watch this movie! For a movie based on ballet, it's dark and disturbing. Definitely not a movie you'd share with little young girls--or boys for that matter--who love all things ballet. This ain't your Barbie Ballet!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STer Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I found Stefan's review of this film very interesting Black Swan Movie Review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysterionMuffles Posted March 17, 2013 Author Share Posted March 17, 2013 Oh my God, someone else noticed it! I knew it was her mother that raped her the night before the show. Lily said "sweet girl" which is the same thing her mother says. I guess Nina was so damaged that the only way to put up with the rape, she had to fantasize it as Lily doing her. I mean the signs were all there where her mom wanted to undress her and Nina was so subtle, but defensive nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pepin Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think this says something about me, but I saw the mother as a kind and loving figure who was trying her best, and Nina as a girl with little self confidence who got screwed up by other people. Going to have to rewatch this sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysterionMuffles Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 Not sure if loving is the right term to describe her mother...but yeah rewatch it and pay closer attention to the relationship. Examine if it's loving or controlling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickhk Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 The horror I felt during some scenes, wow. What a movie. Jesus. What a great find. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysterionMuffles Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Glad you checked it out and liked it! Bumping for more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribuck Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I listened to Stefan's review of "Black Swan" before I saw the movie. I felt that helped me to get a lot more from watching it, especially as the plot is a bit subtle and complicated in parts. Unfortunately, I can't locate Stefan's review now. My take was that the mother was the abuser. As a subconscious defense, the daughter had "switched off" her emotions to block the pain. As a result, the only way she could experience any type of emotion was through self-harm that was strong enough to "pierce through" her emotional barrier. I thoroughly recommend "Black Swan". It's well worth making sure you have no distractions, and totally immerse yourself in it. Is probably the first movie to disturb me psychologically. For me, "A Clockwork Orange" was the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMX2010 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I listened to Stefan's review of "Black Swan" before I saw the movie. I felt that helped me to get a lot more from watching it, especially as the plot is a bit subtle and complicated in parts. Unfortunately, I can't locate Stefan's review now. It's FDR podcast number 1826. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsayers Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I'll have to watch it again sometime. I didn't pick up on that stuff at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysterionMuffles Posted May 14, 2014 Author Share Posted May 14, 2014 Yeah neither did I the first time. I only got disturbed from the blatant molestation stuff, but the 2nd or 3rd time I watched it, I fully understood it was her mother all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archimedes Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I also recommend Requiem for a Dream from the same director. It's a great movie about addiction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribuck Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I often wonder about deep movies like this one. Do the writer and director really have such a detailed and insightful knowledge of the human condition, or does that aspect of the movie arise as a side-effect of them trying to make a commercially-successful film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysterionMuffles Posted May 21, 2014 Author Share Posted May 21, 2014 I often wonder about deep movies like this one. Do the writer and director really have such a detailed and insightful knowledge of the human condition, or does that aspect of the movie arise as a side-effect of them trying to make a commercially-successful film? That's an awesome question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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