ThoseWhoStayUofM Posted April 4, 2013 Posted April 4, 2013 I, as I hope many of you can relate, often think to myself before falling asleep about philosophical quandaries... ideas...I was thinking as abstractly as humanly possible about what actually matters. It really just comes down to relationships. I mean, living in the western world, everything essentially is delivered to me on a silver spoon. It's virtually impossible to die of lack of resources. Ultimately, if we can sustain ourselves through our labor and aren't a parasite on societie's wellfare state that we all love to talk about, then what ought we do with our lives? The only answer I can come up with is relationship building. Of course, there are other theories about "helping people" but what does that really mean? As we've found out through psychological evidence, peaceful parenting and honest relationship parent-child transactions are fundamental to human flourishing. Providing "resources" is trivial at this point. What matters is real, serous, connections. I'm talking trust, loyalty, and supreme value of the human being over all other "goods" or "means to ends". You want to talk "meaning of life"... that's it, baby. The trick is finding a person who hasn't been sufficiently damaged enough to reject this level of "connectedness".Stef is really on to something here. We need to change the culture... the "norms" we live by... if we want to even begin to make this world a better place.Lastly, I think it's super important to introduce Elinor Ostrom to the freedomain community. This community, which I consider myself LOOSELY a part of, sees government as a "monoply on the initiation of force". That is a convenient definition to have if you want to argue against the "social contract meh... coercive meh... violent" government that EVERY nation is ruled by. This is not... IT'S NOT... the only form of governence that exists. You can have government that is totally voluntary. THIS IS SO IMPORTANT! Please please please read her stuff. Common Pool Resource management is the name of game. Google it.I am learning about her work in my class taught by Elizabeth Anderson. It's amazing. This class is amazing. Please investigate...This entire community needs to move away from "moral arguments". We get it... the initiation of force is wrong. We need to start talking about how we solve collective action problems without a coercive government institution. How do we solve the problem of "freeloaders"? It's easy to argue that the current system not only DOESN'T solve this problem, but institutionally reinforces it through the wellfare state, but that doesn't mean.., therefore anarchy by default. I think we can do better than that. We can SOLVE this problem. Read Ostrom. Investigate this problem.
RestoringGuy Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 I have tried to discuss Ostrom: http://board.freedomainradio.com/forums/t/22779.aspx That was in 2009. Today I personally think computer software is now becoming a much higher priority, since the tools of control are becoming less physical and more algorithmic. It seems to me in a couple years the corporate software platform gatekeepers will be acting in conjunction with central government regulators to facilitate their mutual goals. Current tablets, app stores, automatic-updates, and cloud storage are all centralization-based traps. It would be cool to come up with common pool resources, although I am now thinking it will be tough without preventing the central-thinkers from sabotaging at will. It is depressing to me that the technology is moving the wrong way.
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