Existing Alternatives Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 I’m sure everyone here heard of Ron Paul’s new project – the home schooling curriculum. I was wondering if anyone has any ideas and or details on it – the website seems to be very broad and is still building up to the September launch. Although, it already receives a lot of negative press. I was reading either in NYT or one of those rags how this curriculum will oppose “so-called government” schools (it escapes me why this is “so-called”). They also mentioned that it will focus on morals. And here is where it struck me that most people don’t understand what morals are. The rag automatically assumed that the morals will be Christian-based; I don’t think they can imagine any other non-religious morals. That is an interesting barrier for us (the movement) to consider and figure out a way to overcome. What are your thoughts on that? As an aside, when will we see the Molyneux curriculum?
Wesley Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 3 things- 1st- I think the K-5 curriculum will be free, so we can look at at least that part and judge it for ourselves. 2nd- Stefan seems to be more into unschooling by which the child determines what they learn rather than forcing a curriculum. I am not positive about this. However, I think many on this site wouldn't like the idea of a curriculum that the child cannot then learn what they are interested in. However, it is likely that this curriculum is preferable to other options. 3rd- I would be incredibly interested to see a Molyneux "cirriculum" that was voluntary and would allow kids and parents to learn whatever they wanted (at least pertaining to topics of the show like negotiation, dreams, property rights, ethics, emotions, etc.) and kids and parents could sit and watch things or have interactive pages and links to helpful info for kids and parents. There could be like a child course and a parent course. Not sure if Stefan wants to take on that task, and it may be a gradual thing with a few videos going into detail on whatever Izzy is currently interested in. This could be an interesting project
Rob_Ilir Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 They also mentioned that it will focus on morals. And here is where it struck me that most people don’t understand what morals are. The rag automatically assumed that the morals will be Christian-based; I don’t think they can imagine any other non-religious morals. That is an interesting barrier for us (the movement) to consider and figure out a way to overcome. What are your thoughts on that? Looking at this , it feels like the most of homescholing is done for religious morals, but teaching different philosophical convictions is seen as a great negative. I would much prefer the unschooling method. Homeschooling sounds like the libertarian way, still having to use the approved statist curriculum, and it has not produced much, compared to the unschooled. This is my vague observation. As for Stefans curriculum, just a kid friendly RTR book would suffice, so they can communicate their needs clearly, and lets face it, thats all we learn in 10 years of public school.
Existing Alternatives Posted April 16, 2013 Author Posted April 16, 2013 They also mentioned that it will focus on morals. And here is where it struck me that most people don’t understand what morals are. The rag automatically assumed that the morals will be Christian-based; I don’t think they can imagine any other non-religious morals. That is an interesting barrier for us (the movement) to consider and figure out a way to overcome. What are your thoughts on that? Looking at this , it feels like the most of homescholing is done for religious morals, It looks like your link is broken. But according to the Wikipedia article, I think, you were trying to reference, only 38% of homeschooling parents cite religion as the main reason. The narrative bundles moral and religious education together quoting 80% respondents. but teaching different philosophical convictions is seen as a great negative. I cannot seem to find a reference to this. You would think that it is one of the reasons why people homeschool to provide additional perspective to the single-mindedness of government schools. I would much prefer the unschooling method. Homeschooling sounds like the libertarian way, still having to use the approved statist curriculum, and it has not produced much, compared to the unschooled. This is my vague observation. I have not explored the concept of unschooling in depth, but it appears that it is set apart from homeschooling by the presence of a formal “curriculum.” To be fair, most people aren’t mentally equipped or ready to oversee child’s development without any plan or guide. This is where these curricula come in handy – I don’t think anyone advocates a strong adherence to them. Also, in many jurisdictions it appears to be illegal not to follow an approved curriculum. As for Stefans curriculum, just a kid friendly RTR book would suffice, so they can communicate their needs clearly, and lets face it, thats all we learn in 10 years of public school. Sorry, what's RTR?
Wesley Posted April 16, 2013 Posted April 16, 2013 Sorry, what's RTR? Stefan's book Real-Time Relationships http://www.lulu.com/shop/stefan-molyneux/real-time-relationships-the-logic-of-love-extended-edition/paperback/product-2367788.html;jsessionid=E53BD096563A8C2CA2681AC5B7A08DB0 http://freedomainradio.com/FreeBooks.aspx
Existing Alternatives Posted April 17, 2013 Author Posted April 17, 2013 Sorry, what's RTR? Stefan's book Real-Time Relationships http://www.lulu.com/shop/stefan-molyneux/real-time-relationships-the-logic-of-love-extended-edition/paperback/product-2367788.html;jsessionid=E53BD096563A8C2CA2681AC5B7A08DB0 http://freedomainradio.com/FreeBooks.aspx Gotcha! Haven't made my way to it yet...
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