cab21 Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 im not at the end of the book yet, but so far people are happy when they lose the person they love to someone the person loves more, is this realistic? dagny loved hank more than francisco, and john more than hank, and the two men seem to be ok and happy with this , even though the two that lost did not get to be with her, but it says they are ok with it because it would be a lie if she choose them instead of the person she loved more. it seems like this would lead to lots of divorce or something if people just switched whenever they perceived they could trade up? people are also happy to lose in business to people that are better at business than they are. im getting confused as to the value of wanting to be the best vs working with those that are better or losing to those that are better.
mikrob Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 I don't remember those characters expressing joy that they lost at love or business. I think the message was that "proper" men accept the reality of the connection between value & voluntary relationships. And enjoy the challenge of competing of which losing is a possibility.
cab21 Posted May 2, 2013 Author Posted May 2, 2013 perhaps joy was the wrong word, but accepting the fact of losing with such brutal honesty with no fight, seems more like a romantic ideal of how humans ought to relate than the reality of her own relationships or of many others. im reading rands personal life, and it says the person she had an affiar beleived she thought her husband was joyful about her having a affair. http://marriage.about.com/od/thearts/p/Marriage-Of-Frank-O-Connor-And-Ayn-Rand.htm from the article is appears rand was rationalizing the affair and thought she had a husband that she did not have in reality. sure in evolution there could be the drive to trade up in business and sex partners, but not many are "proper" about the loss in reality. at least people did not perceive her husbands reaction to be that of a "proper man" if rands view was that it ought not to cause conflict when she sleeps with other men in a open marriage.
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