Mishelle Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Dear Stephan, One of the most fascinating thought-provoking concepts I've been following is Spiral Dynamics as a way to "map" and explain social change and conscious evolution. I'm wondering if you are familiar with it at all and if so, what is your take?
STer Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Dear Stephan, One of the most fascinating thought-provoking concepts I've been following is Spiral Dynamics as a way to "map" and explain social change and conscious evolution. I'm wondering if you are familiar with it at all and if so, what is your take? Not Stefan here. But, I've come across this concept both through Beck and Ken Wilber. I think it's a very interesting concept. I'm a big proponent of the importance of understanding relevant categories properly when assessing situations. For example, knowing a person's personality type can help make a lot more sense of why they interact the way they do. Knowing if someone has a particular personality disorder can help you make a lot more sense of why they interact the way they do. Similarly, I find this color concept helpful in thinking about the different categories of values in groups within society. None of this is pinpoint accurate. But I do think it can help think about strategy in a broad way and it is important to recognize the presence of these very different value systems.
Mishelle Posted May 16, 2013 Author Posted May 16, 2013 Hi STer, Thanks for your reply and it's good to know, maybe you would have an opinion on my question around this. I'm involved with a community of women I've really come to emjoy and appreciate, who certainly consider their worldview to be 2nd tier. The thing is, when it comes to politics I find their views to be extremely Mean-Green-meme, and therefor naive. They of course find mine to be crazy and radical. I don't want to skip over this stuff with them, because a few of them are becoming more political and have the money and influence to make a difference. Do you have any thoughts how I might approach them about the fact that they are further empowering the system that's causing the problems? Just like the Green meme, they really mean well, but as DB says, in the 1st Tier every problem we think we solve creates a new set of greater problems to solve and they are really still stuck in the Hierarchal mindset. Any thoughts are welcomed! cheers Mishelle
STer Posted May 16, 2013 Posted May 16, 2013 Hi STer, Thanks for your reply and it's good to know, maybe you would have an opinion on my question around this. I'm involved with a community of women I've really come to emjoy and appreciate, who certainly consider their worldview to be 2nd tier. The thing is, when it comes to politics I find their views to be extremely Mean-Green-meme, and therefor naive. They of course find mine to be crazy and radical. I don't want to skip over this stuff with them, because a few of them are becoming more political and have the money and influence to make a difference. Do you have any thoughts how I might approach them about the fact that they are further empowering the system that's causing the problems? Just like the Green meme, they really mean well, but as DB says, in the 1st Tier every problem we think we solve creates a new set of greater problems to solve and they are really still stuck in the Hierarchal mindset. Any thoughts are welcomed! cheers Mishelle Well I'm no expert on spiral dynamics. I'm just familiar with it. In fact, I only learned of the "mean green" meme controversy earlier today after I saw your post and skimmed the Wikipedia page on spiral dynamics. So I don't think I can give advice from that perspective very reliably. However, if you just ask directly without the spiral dynamics terminology and explain the situation I'll give my opinion.
Mishelle Posted May 17, 2013 Author Posted May 17, 2013 Hi again, Well the timing on this blog post is just so uncanny I had to share: here is the perfect example of informed "Green thinking" moving the conversation into 2nd tier worldview, and is speaking to exactly what I've been so concerned about! http://www.thrivemovement.com/how-share-difficult-information-without-losing-friendships.blog?utm_source=Sharing+Difficult+Information+with+Friends+WITHOUT+Losing+Friendships&utm_campaign=Eblast-+Conversation+tips&utm_medium=email I don't have time at the moment to explain my situation without the handy shorthand of SDi, but I will come back to you very soon if you are still curious. cheers Mishelle
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