dazed and confused Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 im very sorry to hear about your cancer. my grandfather died of cancer and my mother had cancer years ago, so i know how serious it is. im curious what your reaction was to reading the comments on the video where you said you had cancer. most of them seemed to be about some miracle treatment, be it hemp oil, vitamin c, burzynsky etc. the story of steve jobs must be on your mind, the man who got sick and decided to use alternative medicine instead of going to the doctors and how he could have saved himself if he had gone the traditional route straight away. i got the impression that youve just decided to ignore the idea of alternative medicne alltogether. i dont think youve brought it up once. i dont know how much research youve done if any. but im really baffled by you of all people having more faith in establishment doctors than you have of establishment economists. you must be familiar with the bloody history of medicine, you just think modern medicine is different, they removed their worst excesses but the same rotten principles that they were built on are still there. lets get to the heart of the matter that i wanted to get to, THERE ARE NO CURES. the main virtues of hemp oil, vitamin c, homeopathy et al. is that they lack the horrible side effects of chemo. which as you may or may not know is poison, there are no two ways about it. your hoping it kills the tumor before it kills you. and those odds arent very good. even if you manage to get lucky and kill the tumor before it kills you, your health will never be the same again, doctors with all their pills and potions will leave their mark on your body forever. the reason why cancer is considered such a painful disease is because of all the poison the doctors pump you full of. there is only one way to health and that is to find the cause of cancer and remove it. your diet isnt as perfect as you think it is. vegetarianism has left a large bodycount. i dont know how much fresh air, rest, sunshine, exercise, clean water etc. you get but the cause of the tumor is in your life, its not a demon outside just attackign you at random. if you remove the tumor through chemo without removing the cause of the tumor it will be back in a form worse than before, and this is the beginning of the end for you. judging by the number of podcasts coming out recently you seem to be working like mad trying to get in a lot of work before you kick the bucket. natures cure is rest, a complete mental, physical and physiological rest. physiological rest meaning fasting. i hope you get well soon
JohnDJasper Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Dear "dazed," Stefan has actually responded to these comments in general by warning his readers of the danger of offering advice to people. I fully agree with what you have written about health and the absence of "cures" but for every person offering these helpful words, there's at least 10 more swearing to the efficacy of this herb or that other treatment. For every person who might take what we see as the correct path, think of how many would be led astray by various quacks. You and I both know that health is about living a healthy lifestyle and removing the causes of disease. Poisoning the body is what causes disease and can in no way be a path to health. However, we see "healthy" people walking around everywhere who were "cured" with radiation, chemo or surgery! What life these people would have had if they'd followed a different path is an unknown. The fact that most will suffer their next bout of cancer in just a matter of years is not figured into the equation. I caught up with an old friend this week who has suffered two bouts of cancer in the last 5 years and his last course of chemo damaged his heart severely. He's slowly dying but still credits the chemo with giving him several more years of life. I've heard that people who refuse all cancer treatments tend to live, on average, an extra 9 years over those who receive the treatments and that the quality of those years far exceeds that of the conventional patients. I have yet to see any solid proof of this claim but it would be nice to think it's true. But in the end, it's up to each individual to decide what path they put their faith in. We can only offer up our knowledge so that they can take advantage of it if they choose.
Mellony Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 As someone who grew up in a family that never went to a doctor, I wish my parents would have taken me. I had chronic ear infections as a child and they tried to cure them with all kinds of crazy methods....I ended up with hearing loss. If they would have taken me to a doc and gotten me proper treatment, I probably would have my hearing. My uncle's wife died a horrible death from breast cancer, they were treating it naturally. My father researches natural cures and through the years I have been exposed to numerous cure alls: baking soda, hydrogen peroxide, vit C, vit D, hemp oil, oregano oil, lugol's solution, Dr Walach, Dr Schultz, Linus Pauling etc. I could go on and on. I have yet to see any of it work. All of the information is anecdotol and their "studies" are usually obscure studies of a few test subjects. I've read alligations that Pauling had actually hand picked cancer patients that he was sure to live so his study would look better. Dr Walach says he was a dr, he wasn't an MD, he was a natural doctor. If I was in the same position as Stephan, I would probably do the same thing. And you should refrain from judging until you have gone through the same circumstances. He has a child and a wife. He probably imagines never seeing them again and how hard their life would be without him, and doesn't want that for them. So he does what has the best chances a treatment that has been proven relatively effective.
Phil Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I agree, people should not carelessly offer "advice" about supposed cancer cures, if they know little about the subject matter and the concrete diagnosis. I guess this is true for most matters, but especially ones as serious as this. The same is true for giving family advice to other people as well, by the way.
JohnDJasper Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 As someone who grew up in a family that never went to a doctor, I wish my parents would have taken me. I had chronic ear infections as a child and they tried to cure them with all kinds of crazy methods....I ended up with hearing loss. If they would have taken me to a doc and gotten me proper treatment, I probably would have my hearing. My uncle's wife died a horrible death from breast cancer, they were treating it naturally. My father researches natural cures and through the years I have been exposed to numerous cure alls: baking soda, hydrogen peroxide, vit C, vit D, hemp oil, oregano oil, lugol's solution, Dr Walach, Dr Schultz, Linus Pauling etc. I could go on and on. I have yet to see any of it work. All of the information is anecdotol and their "studies" are usually obscure studies of a few test subjects. I've read alligations that Pauling had actually hand picked cancer patients that he was sure to live so his study would look better. Dr Walach says he was a dr, he wasn't an MD, he was a natural doctor. If I was in the same position as Stephan, I would probably do the same thing. And you should refrain from judging until you have gone through the same circumstances. He has a child and a wife. He probably imagines never seeing them again and how hard their life would be without him, and doesn't want that for them. So he does what has the best chances a treatment that has been proven relatively effective. I'm not knocking your comments but strangely enough, my two youngest daughters suffered continous ear infections starting shortly after their first vaccinations and one daughter ending up with a big hole in her eardrum in her teens AND that was under constant medical supervision by first American and then British doctors. As you'll notice in both mine and "dazed and confused"'s posts, it doesn't matter whether you're using medical treatments or alternative treatments, you're doing it wrong. Don't treat the symptoms of disease - remove the causes - then the symptoms will mostly go away by themselves. If you want, have the chemo, radiation and surgery which attack the symptoms of cancer, but meanwhile, remove the causes of the disease so that it doesn't come back. The big problem with that approach is that the conventional cancer treatments actually cause cancer themselves. As far as judging people goes, I fully understand that people will vote with their faith when it comes to the crunch and we've been trained since birth to trust medical professionals. This is just as natural as a religious person turning to the church or "God" in times of crisis or a citizen turning to their government. It doesn't make it any more effective.
dazed and confused Posted June 7, 2013 Author Posted June 7, 2013 Dear "dazed," Stefan has actually responded to these comments in general by warning his readers of the danger of offering advice to people. I fully agree with what you have written about health and the absence of "cures" but for every person offering these helpful words, there's at least 10 more swearing to the efficacy of this herb or that other treatment. For every person who might take what we see as the correct path, think of how many would be led astray by various quacks. thank you for responding, i didnt want to be just another guy on the internet offering advice but i also didnt want to see stef die without atleast making a post. im glad i got it off my chest. im know stef is a smart guy and im sure he has done his own research on the subject.
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