David L Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 Does Mother's Day and Father's Day keep us from growing up? It seems like we have a debt that can never be repaid here, and it constantly forces us to remain in the role of a subordinate child until our parents finally pass on. What do you think?
JKPgamer Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 Does Mother's Day and Father's Day keep us from growing up? It seems like we have a debt that can never be repaid here, and it constantly forces us to remain in the role of a subordinate child until our parents finally pass on. I can see where you are coming from here, but I would say that isn't universal. While I had a terrible upbringing at the hands of my father and I don't even call him on father's day...My mother has been one of the best people in life. I see Mother's Day as a celebration for the woman that was consistent to me all through my childhood, yes she made some mistakes but I can count those mistakes on 1 hand, and she immedietely apologized to me after these incidents. So I learned empathy from her, how to live with consistency, and how to own my actions.(As a clarification...my parents sperated when I was 2, divorced when I was 5 and the court gave my father custody. It's not like my mother just left me in an abusive household on purpose, the state with their guns took me away from her.) I realize my subjective experience can't be universalized either but I don't think it keeps us from growing up. It's still a choice to celebrate it or not, and I don't feel subordinate on Mother's Day. I feel grateful for the lessons that she taught me and the example she lives. If you feel as a subordinate child on those days then choose to not celebrate them. I mean I could give a shit about celebrating Father's Day but that's because I know objectively my father was a terrible father. So why would I honor that?
David L Posted June 9, 2013 Author Posted June 9, 2013 What do you mean when you use the word "it"? Parent's Day (Mother's Day/Father's Day). Shouldn't our past be left behind so that we can fully grow up? Why should we be saddled with an endless debt to the past? Doesn't that bog down everybody, former parents and their offspring alike?
David L Posted June 9, 2013 Author Posted June 9, 2013 Also, we could make mention that Parent's Day is a product of the State, right? You can bet if it didn't serve the State, the State wouldn't have sanctioned it and made it a permanent fixture of the national calendar. Just another foray into the take over of our children, by destroying their authentic bond with their parents and replacing it with a government made decree. Thus, whose the real parent here?
masonman Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 I think it primarily aids the state in that it teaches blind obedience (love your parents and celebrate them even if they aren't good parents or good people). Some people make the choice not to go along with that concept, but the idea of "choice" is never mentioned in the mainstream when it comes to mothers day and fathers day.
Guest darkskyabove Posted June 9, 2013 Posted June 9, 2013 What makes any particular day special? What is it that I can do on day X, that I cannot do on any other day? What is it that I "must" do on some day, that I couldn't do on any day? Why do I need a "holiday" to express myself? Who thinks that how I spend my day is a reflection on them? Am I so insecure that I require validation by receipt of a Hallmark card? Do I need to be reminded of what's important by fanfare, parades, and celebration? Do fireworks and BBQ justify the destruction of liberty? Does a deity born as Santa Claus and resurrected as the Easter Bunny promote belief? Why do I need to be told what to do?
David L Posted June 9, 2013 Author Posted June 9, 2013 I think it primarily aids the state in that it teaches blind obedience (love your parents and celebrate them even if they aren't good parents or good people). Yes, and it tends to corrupt the parents because they know in the back of their mind that they always have an unconditional bailout coming every year from their children, so there's little incentive in earning their child's TRUE respect toward them (by way of practicing truly sensitive and authentic caregiving). How convenient for the state, which potentially gains further allegience the more the children feel unloved by their own parents. I wonder if anyone has ever done a study to see if there's a correlation between the progressive breakdown of the American family, and the advent of Parent's Day. The state decreed Mother's Day in 1914 (a year after passing the Federal Reserve Act) and Father's Day shortly thereafter. Maybe there's some connection, I wouldn't at all be surprised.
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