fridolutin Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I want to bring my point to this very important subject, please be comprehensive for my lack of knowledge in philisophy Life and death An important point for the philosophical debate is the thought life is ending at death because conscience seem absent in the deceased corpse. This is, in part, because we consider valid one type of conscience as being life regardless of the microbial activity continuing in the dead body. Bacteria are participating to the life of our bodies in a very important level and we still draw a line between our self and them. For many they are strangers, separated from our self. IT is scientifically admitted that mithocondries in the cells are creatures that first appeared as individuals who infected the primitive cell as a parasite. This transformed in certain cases to a symbiotic relation that lead, trough evolution, to superior animals such as humans. Some say those who continued the parasitic mode became the carnivore while the others, the symbiotic, the herbivore. They both are included in our bodies and have the same roles they have in nature. The immune system, the white cells (the warriors), and the nurturing red cells (the mothers). Human societies can be seen as an entity, a social living creature whose cells are the citizen and organs the different trades. The cultural specificity is the social conscience. When we look at nature and the roles the different living creatures adopt we recognize there the same living creature, but in a more primitive form, the indigenous. The organization of primitive societies is a reflection of the original human body before he became civilized. For what is left of the original human seed can be qualified heirloom and for the other hybrid type, the civilized and conditioned human, we can see it can only exist inside exceptional conditions. All levels are inter related, what is done in the base reflects on the summit. Existence includes life and death as life includes wake and sleep. This fractal view of life can be reduced or augmented to recognize in all levels the invariance.
Pepin Posted August 17, 2013 Posted August 17, 2013 I'm having a difficult time understanding the train of thought. I don't really know what is being argued.
fridolutin Posted August 20, 2013 Author Posted August 20, 2013 Thank you Pepin for your comment I'm am not english and my writting is probably lacking some important elements. Same with philosophy, I'm not aa scholar. What is presented here is the fractal view on the subject and it seemed to me it's not considered as it should be.
rafi Posted August 22, 2013 Posted August 22, 2013 life is what I call a slow death, so is it really life we are experimenting or is it a small portion of death every day. I am aware that humanity is and has always been functioning in survival mode. So I don't believe that we are living, our lives resembles death much more then life. On a positive note; many of us are becoming aware of this, and are trying to do something about it .
fridolutin Posted August 25, 2013 Author Posted August 25, 2013 Death This idea of the presence of death during life is part of the fractal vision way of seeing existence. Existence is therefore the sum of both life and death the same way wake and sleep is part of life. In nature this is seen in the seasons and the opposite summer and winter with their transitional spring and fall, but also in the 24 hour day where clarity and darkness are bringing their specific conditions of cold and warmness. When looked in the microcosmic direction, the heart beat is life and death it brings in the veins, life that is distributed and when retracting caries death to the be expurgated by the organs. Same mechanism occurs with respiration life and death is in a cyclic movement where one or the other is ruling.
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