FreedomFanBoy Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 A friend from high school has had a lot of problems conceiving a child and she and her husband has been very open about it. She is now 20 weeks along and everything looks good from a health standpoint. Then she shared one of those e-cards. So I had to say something. How did I do? *Ok, how do I post and image?* http://imgur.com/XIbJgpr
MysterionMuffles Posted October 17, 2013 Posted October 17, 2013 I don't get it....what did you do or say? When you post, there's this green icon just below the emoticon smiley. It's called image then you can either upload one or link to it.
Zava Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Horrible ecard. I'd like to hear what others recommend too. All I can think of is to get the best book out there or print out some project no spank pages and talk in person if you can. Avoid facebook comments. Even email unless you have a successful history of communicating effectively in detail with them that way. Tell them you know they're good people and you think they'll be great parents but that this really concerns you. If they are your friends, they will want to hear you out, consider and value your input. EDIT: Just noticed you included a screenshot of comments... reading now. I think you did good. I'm so glad people are speaking up like you. I just feel like it would be more effective in person or at least in private, without the social pressure of abusers and their heckling. Also it would avoid her having to feel uncomfortable for posting something she wasn't really understanding I think. Maybe follow up in private, showing how serious you are about this important topic.
FreedomFanBoy Posted October 22, 2013 Author Posted October 22, 2013 I live 1000 miles away from where I grew up. It had a lot to do with why my wife and I are peaceful parents. I can imagine how hard it would be to try to raise a child peacefully when your parents or siblings are around spoiling your self-knowledge and commitment to peace. Luckily we only see family once a year, if that and for only a weekend. I will follow up with her as she gets further along in the pregnancy. I just ordered P.E.T. and plan on reading through that. Once done with that, I'll recommend it to her. I just can't imagine waiting your whole life to meet your child, be there when she/he is born, look them in the eye and promise to protect them and in a few short years feel like you have the right to physically assault them. It's sick. By the way, I came across this in the FDR Facebook group and donated right away. If you have chance, please look it over and consider the same http://stopspanking.org/
MysterionMuffles Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 The people in the Facebook comments...just...wow. Really stupid. Especially the first one saying that they'd rather be at work and a boring meeting than listen to a simple 20 minute presentation talking about the effects of spanking. That Daniel guy sounds like a real douche. I love how he really believes the non-spanked kids are the ones who scream in restaurants and...ooooh it's been a long day. Don't know if I want to rant right now.
FreedomFanBoy Posted October 23, 2013 Author Posted October 23, 2013 I like to think that the "seed" I planted that day was the knowledge that it's not alright. That people can give reasoned arguments as to why either the apathy, ignorance or willful abuse is wrong.
MysterionMuffles Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 I think you did a really good job defending your point. But you should never EVER apologize for your passion. I hope so...I hope you at least gave them some doubt about their methods. Also http://www.nospank.net has a 9 page PDF for free, summarizing all the research presented in Stef's video. It would be nice to mass print them and pass 'em around.
brian0918 Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 Be sure to regularly share family photos that she can review and decide for herself whether you're raising a wild child. Show by example.
FreedomFanBoy Posted October 23, 2013 Author Posted October 23, 2013 Brian, I do regularly share photos. Constantly and probably annoyingly. She and I are friends on both Facebook and Instagram so she definitely sees what kind of amazing child that had come into our life.
FreedomFanBoy Posted October 23, 2013 Author Posted October 23, 2013 I just private messaged the CNN Opinion article (http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/22/opinion/mackenzie-spanking-effects/index.html?hpt=hp_t4) to my High School friend, then started to read it. This quote stood out to me: "Changing people's minds about something they care about by presenting data is a tough thing to do, particularly around something so emotionally laden as spanking" Hopefully she gets that far into it without dismissing it.
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