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Just now I did this search in google

 

"understand stefan molyneux"

 

i wanted to see what came up. i wanted to see who was trying to understand stefan. or just whatever else came up.

 

the results were interesting.  i wont report on them all but i suggest you try it yourself if u are curious.

 

one reason i thought of this is because i have signed up over at another forum - i wont say the name because i am afraid i might get banned here. i say that partly in jest and partly in seriousness. i was just banned at outofthefog.net and i am trying to figure out why.

 

so anyhow thanks to michael and whoever else "accpted" me here. i am trying to find a place where i feel safe and valued - not a place where i "belong" because i dont want to "belong" to anyone or to any group. i dont want to be owned by them. get me?

 

i have lots and lots and lots to say. i have already said a lot on my own site but i see that most pple dont feel motivated to go read it. so ... ok... i reluctantly accept that, or painfully let's say or i could sahy that i am not doing an adequate job of marketing myself or something - in what seems to be the age of blatant self promotion. so if u dont yell loud enough about how great u are, u will get trampled over.

 

anyhow... that is all for now. i want to read a couple of the results from that search...

 

ah but i didnt finish my thought from before.... when i mentioned the other site i joined which i wont name now. that site has a lot of pple criticizing stefan. but not many trying to understand him

 

i respect stefan enough to try to understand him - i dont know what he would think of my system of talking about feelings but i will say now that i would feel good if he felt understood by me one day. i like to put numbers on feelings. so i will say i would feel satisfied 9 if he would feel understood 8 by me. make sense?

 

thanks for reading - tfr 

 

steve

 

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well as long as the other forum isn't an anti-FDR one you're good lol. If it's Zeitgeist, that's acceptable as you are smart enough to be open between both ideas. 

 

Welcome to the forum and I also like the idea of being accepted over a sense of belonging. I'm not sure if I agree with that idea, I feel like I truly belong here because I'm accepted, but eh I would like for you to make the distinction more if you can. Sounds interesting. I don't think I'm owned by anyone if I belong somewhere, it's just that I feel like I'm at a safe place like you desire, but if you can elaborate on that that would be great.

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who cares about understanding me? focus on the arguments and evidence, forget about me

 

I guess he wasn't used to dealing with a celebrity that makes a virtue out of transparency!

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I personally find Stef fascinating as well, but its because he has traits which i want to adopt (confidence and assertivness). Im also a little interested in how he managed to gain the motivation to pursue rationality (something ive been trying to figure out in myself as well). Other than that though, i am only interested in his arguments and their validity.

 

Would you mind elaborating on why 'understanding stef' is important to you?

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Steve, 

 

There is only 1 place in the whole universe where you truly belong, are safe and valued; in your own skin, buddy. Feeling like you 'belong' is something you can take with you wherever you go. Stef is just a really pale dude who tends to squeak (and I'm not talking about the sound of plastic wrap being pulled across the extra fine wax finish on his forehead). However, between the squeaks, and occasionally during said squeaks, he's able to put forth some very logical arguments. 

 

FDR is not about Stef, it is about you and your relationship to yourself and others. It is a label we put on this conversation; a conversation that is seriously lacking in bullcrap. 

 

Spend your time listening to the podcasts. Start at 0 and go in order. Not every podcast will be to your liking, but that is a really good thing. It shows you that Stef is just a dude.  

 

http://freedomainradio.com/Podcasts.aspx

 

And always ask questions. Curiosity is the key!  :Welcome:

 

Nate

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