Guest e Yer Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 The state emphasizes that you can be anything you want to be if you just work hard and put your mind to it. This is a cruel and false advise submitted by the state to people who believe this nonsense at face value. Knowing thy self, being honest with one's self will reveal talents and gifts that will lead the way to your success. Just liking and loving to do something isn't enough. You may wish and want to sing like Elvis, but probably never will achieve that no matter how hard you work or toil. The time to know thy self may take you years, and many trials and tribulations but rest assure that none of that energy, time, and risk taking is wasted. In totality, all your experiences will more clearly define who you are. Once you know that, you are on your way.
PatrickC Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 The state emphasizes that you can be anything you want to be if you just work hard and put your mind to it. I'm not sure the state does make this claim exactly. The only time it does promote a similar idea is with an expression UK politicians have picked up on with, 'hard working families'. It's meant to instill a sense of pride for hard working (tax paying) families. Getting people to feel proud about their mundanity is an important piece of propaganda of course.As far as great success goes. Children are constantly told they need to go to the right schools, colleges amd get the right grades and qualifications. This is what the state considers as hard work and for most people they know they failed that hurdle by the time they are 18. Of course, success has nothing to do with all that in reality. But for many it can be difficult to shake that assumption for a while, if ever at all. I'm tending to like failure these days, as it's a fairly good empirical guide to dropping a particular pursuit.
ThatAtheistPlace Posted November 5, 2013 Posted November 5, 2013 I agree, this seems to be an argument of families and religion more than the state. It is prevalent in the schools, but moreso in a manner that says, "You in no way reached our high expectations, now join the military, wallow in shame and guilt, or generally stay on this hamster will of reward for compliance." whereas, I think that parents and religion genuinely delude themselves into the magical thinking of "work hard, believe it, achieve it." It is sad, for sure.
Guest e Yer Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 I agree, this seems to be an argument of families and religion more than the state. It is prevalent in the schools, but moreso in a manner that says, "You in no way reached our high expectations, now join the military, wallow in shame and guilt, or generally stay on this hamster will of reward for compliance." whereas, I think that parents and religion genuinely delude themselves into the magical thinking of "work hard, believe it, achieve it." It is sad, for sure. I agree, this seems to be an argument of families and religion more than the state. It is prevalent in the schools, but moreso in a manner that says, "You in no way reached our high expectations, now join the military, wallow in shame and guilt, or generally stay on this hamster will of reward for compliance." whereas, I think that parents and religion genuinely delude themselves into the magical thinking of "work hard, believe it, achieve it." It is sad, for sure. Dear PheePhyPhoPlum: I'm glad you agreed with me. You mentioned religion. I my issue with this propaganda of "hard work = success" is strictly a state issue. Parents, over generations, have been brainwashed by state into believing this. I'm religious, Christian. Religion, depending on the church and denomination, is anti-state. Jesus said. "It is easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle than it is to take a rich man to heaven." This is a recognition that the richness in life goes beyond money and the materialism. The trauma call-ins to Freedomain Radio is related to the scars of childhood upbringing and not so much to the wealth or lack of wealth while growing up. People who are monetarily wealthy don't need religion, don't need to humble themselves to the virtue of its teachings and don't need Freedomain Radio...at least for a while...until they discover how spiritually poor they are. Work hard, go for the money, drive a Porche, have several vacation houses, travel the world, etc. are all the incentives for a free range chicken to generate more tax money for the state and central banks. It's the kind of motivational speech that "wet behind the ears" car sales people get before they dash out to the lot to take advantage of the next shopper's ignorance. When you know thy self, your actions, labor and decisions will be increasingly devoted to work or activity that builds personal success and fulfillment. Success builds upon itself exponentially. That work, hobby or pursuit may or may not be monetarily rewarding at first but the long-range goal is to be able to take it to higher levels of service to others and survive off of it eventually.
ThatAtheistPlace Posted November 6, 2013 Posted November 6, 2013 Religion, depending on the church and denomination, is anti-state. Jesus said. "It is easier to fit a camel through the eye of a needle than it is to take a rich man to heaven." This is a recognition that the richness in life goes beyond money and the materialism. ......People who are monetarily wealthy don't need religion, don't need to humble themselves to the virtue of its teachings and don't need Freedomain Radio...at least for a while...until they discover how spiritually poor they are....
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