Hamilton schools to weave values such as tolerance, acceptance into classroom curriculum

[fractional slacker]

They can't use the term teach? They will nicely weave "values" into curriculum.

I have some thoughths but want to hear what y'all think about this here public schooling plans.

 

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2013/11/hamilton_schools_to_weave_values_such_as_tolerance_acceptance_into_classroom_curriculum.html#incart_m-rpt-1

[Bulbasaur]

Tolerance and acceptance are seen as the answer to bigotry, but they also can pave the way to moral relativism. Evil should be no more tolerated or accepted than bigotry, and without a foundation of rational ethics, these ideas tend to end up serving the needs of those who wish to perpetuate predatory behaviors but avoid social ostracism. I would expect more harm than good to come from this.

[CrazyCanuck]

 Evil should be no more tolerated or accepted than bigotry, and without a foundation of rational ethics, these ideas tend to end up serving the needs of those who wish to perpetuate predatory behaviors but avoid social ostracism. I would expect more harm than good to come from this.

I guess I shouldn't tolerate you?  

[Bulbasaur]

I guess I shouldn't tolerate you?  

 

I don't understand. Are you accusing me of evil?

[CrazyCanuck]

I don't understand. Are you accusing me of evil?

Define evil.   

[Bulbasaur]

I would think something like "willful violation of ethics" should suffice. This would include violence, use of force, threat of force (coercion), theft, fraud... All the classics. Are you not familiar with the philosophy on which this board is based? 

[PatrickC]

I often find teaching values of tolerance to be an excuse for using bigotry itself. Hey whitey don't be racist! Or, you boy, don't be sexist!

 

This is probably propaganda from some leftist ideologues. One day people will learn to keep their children away from these Marxist dogs.

[aeonicentity]

Yeah, define values and I might agree with the sentiment. but 'values' like 'fair play' have different definitions between Liberals and normal people.

 

A normal person would consider 'fair play' that if there are defined rules, everyone plays by them. People express good sportsmanship, and show a desire for the welfare of others (i.e. not winning by hurting others).

 

Liberals would probably define it as that + making sure that no one wins excessively, and that winnings should be shared between participants...

 

But in general, teaching values in school is kind of like teaching 'life skills' in prison, or teaching morality to slaves... well meaning, but the wrong place to try. These kinds of things should be taught in the home. You can't replace that.

[fractional slacker]

My thoughts are basically what xelent said. This is postmodernism garbage masquerading as some sort of truth proclamation. They don't dare use the term ethics or morals, so they come up with counterfeit rubbish and pretend they are doing good. The vast majority never question this sort of chicanery. Philosophy exposes these parlor tricks like a laser in fog.Futhermore, according to the relativists there is no such thing as objective morals or truth, they will use tolerance and acceptance to justify bigotry.

[PatrickC]

But in general, teaching values in school is kind of like teaching 'life skills' in prison, or teaching morality to slaves... well meaning, but the wrong place to try. These kinds of things should be taught in the home. You can't replace that.

 

Yes I agree with this, which is why it makes me very suspicious of it. Values are not prescribed, they are lived and should be done amongst family firstly. We display values by our actions. If teachers were to do anything, they would understand those values and reflect them in their own actions. But many teachers I've met consider themselves as having higher values than most of the parents they meet. This most likely to be some kind of ideology they picked up at university of course, which is less about values and much more about indoctrination.