FriendlyHacker Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Is it a technocratic dictatorship without human concerns? 1984? Is it all about technology development? Learn the answers to those questions an many others:
Lowe D Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Thanks for posting this informative video. I don't know anything about the Venus Project, but I admire anyone willing to expose himself and his ideas to criticism.
_LiveFree_ Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Well this sealed it for me. The Venus Project is a religion. Thanks FH.
PoopMeat Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 TVP to my understanding is a project which is a transitional period aka socliaitic transitional which it's ulitimatle goal is a RBE aka communism. a RBE is a moneyless [1], stateless [2], and classless society [3]. TVP wants more technology in everybodies life to raise the standard of living. Fresco was apart of the communistic party as a kid during the great depression [4] which eventualyl he moved on to to join a Technocracy group [5] at which he left that. From there Fresco started Project Americana [6] in the 1950's which it supported the market to help social problems which I guess did not work out so then he started a group called Sociocyberneering [7] at which He bought land down in florida and gave lectures that did not work out so eventually he changed the name in the 1970's to The Venus Project [8] which he gives lectures and makes models. The Venus Project has 3 or 4 phases to acheive it's RBE which are [9] It is far more efficient to build new cities as self-contained systems from the ground up than to restore and retrofit old ones. New cities can take advantage of the latest technologies and be clean, safe, and desirable places to live. In many instances, a circular arrangement will be utilized. We need a current survey of all available planetary resources. The first experimental city or planning center will conduct a global survey of arable land, production facilities, transportation, technical personnel, population, and all other necessities required for a sustainable culture. This survey will enable us to determine the parameters for global planning for humanizing social and technological development, based on the carrying capacity of Earth and the needs of its people. This can best be accomplished with a constantly updated, computerized model of our planetary resources. The function of the first city is to test the validity of design parameters and make necessary changes as needed. It will further this new social direction on many fronts with books, magazines, TV, radio, seminars, theater, and theme parks , as well as designing and experimenting with automated building processes for the next city. Research will also seek the development of clean alternative energy sources, and to overcome shortages through the development of new materials. The new system will provide all the necessities required to support people during the transitional period. To sustain civilization, we must coordinate advanced technology and available resources within a humane global systems approach. For instance, the characteristics of the population in a given area will determine how many hospitals and schools are built and the equipment needed. Some medical systems will be mobile and others will be prefabricated on land and sea. During the transition, scarcity regions will be provided with heat concentrators for cooking and sterilizing water. Food for those areas can be dehydrated and compressed to save shipping space. The packaging will be biodegradable and may double as non-contaminating fertilizers. Regions without arable land will use hydroponic farms, land-based fish farms, and sea farming. Energy will come from wind, solar, heat concentrators, photovoltaic, wave, biomass, geothermal and other sources. An interdisciplinary team of qualified personnel, in line with the project's requirements, will work on automated systems to produce and supply goods and services on a massive scale. These can be the armies of the future, a large peaceful mobilization to restore and preserve the earth and its people. This has never been done before and can only be done when money is no obstacle. The question is not do we have the money, but do we have the resources and means to accomplish this new direction. Phase One The first phase of The Venus Project's long-term plans is already underway. Jacque Fresco, futurist, inventor, industrial designer, and founder of The Venus Project, and his associate Roxanne Meadows, have constructed a 22-acre research center in Venus, Florida to help present the proposals of The Venus Project. Four DVDs, pamphlets, and the book, The Best That Money Can't Buy: Beyond Politics, Poverty, and War, have been created to help raise awareness about this project and its many proposals. Hundreds of futuristic models, plus many computer animations and renderings, have been completed to help visualize this attainable future. A major documentary on the life and work of Jacque Fresco is available completed by William Gazecki, an Academy Award nominated and Emmy winning documentary filmmaker. www.FutureByDesignTheMovie.com Also our latest documentary "Paradise or Oblivion" about the aims and directions of The Venus project can be viewed at www.ParadiseOrOblivion.com Phase Two Phase Two includes the production of a full-length feature film depicting how a world embracing the proposals advanced by The Venus Project would work. This film would provide a positive vision of a peaceful society in which all human beings form a global family on planet Earth. A civilization where all people engage in the pursuit of a better understanding of the world they share. This film has been designed to be an entertaining and educational experience for both adults and children. It also provides a methodology for bridging differences between nations. Phase Three To test its designs and proposals, The Venus Project is working toward putting its ideals into practice with the construction of an experimental research city. Blueprints for most of the initial technologies and buildings have begun. Fund-raising efforts are currently under way to help support the construction of this first experimental city. This new experimental research city would be devoted to working toward the aims and goals of The Venus Project which are: 1. Recognizing the world's resources as the common heritage of all Earth's people. 2. Transcending the artificial boundaries that separate people. 3. Evolving from money-based, nationalistic economies to a resource-based world economy. 4. Assisting in stabilizing the world's population through education and voluntary birth control in order to conform to the carrying capacity of Earth's resources. 5. Reclaiming and restoring the natural environment to the best of our ability. 6. Redesigning our cities, transportation systems, agricultural industries, and industrial plants so that they are energy efficient, clean, and able to conveniently serve the needs of all people. 7. Sharing and applying new technologies for the benefit of all nations. 8. Developing and using clean and renewable energy sources. 9. Manufacturing the highest quality products for the benefit of the world's people. 10. Requiring environmental impact studies prior to construction of any mega projects. 11. Encouraging the widest range of creativity and incentive toward constructive endeavor. 12. Outgrowing nationalism, bigotry, and prejudice through education. 13. Outgrowing any type of elitism, technical or otherwise. 14. Arriving at methodologies through careful research, rather than from mere opinions. 15. Enhancing communication in schools so that our language corresponds to the actual physical nature of the world. 16. Providing not only the necessities of life, but also offering challenges that stimulate the mind while emphasizing individuality over uniformity. 17. Finally, preparing people intellectually and emotionally for the changes and challenges that lie ahead. Phase Four After the experimental research city is built, a theme park is planned that will entertain and inform visitors about humane and environmentally friendly life-styles. It will feature intelligently designed cities; houses, high-efficiency, non-polluting transportation systems; advanced computer technology; and many other innovations that can add value to the lives of all people - in the shortest possible time. We are quite aware that no one can actually predict the future. We can only extrapolate from present information and trends. Population growth, technological change, worldwide environmental conditions, and available resources are the primary data required for future projections. There is no single philosophy or religious, political, scientific, or ideological point of view that someone would not take issue with. We feel certain, however, that the only aspects of The Venus Project that may appear threatening are those that we impose upon ourselves. The Venus Project is neither Utopian nor Orwellian, nor does it reflect the dreams of impractical idealists. Instead, it presents attainable goals requiring only the intelligent application of what we already know. We encourage you to become informed about our proposals in this project through our books, videos and seminars. If you identify with this direction, we encourage you to join with us and work toward its realization. Refernces: [1] FAQ 1, It envisions a time in the near future when money, politics, self and national-interest have been phased out. Although this vision may seem idealistic, it is based upon years of study and experimental research. http://www.thevenusproject.com/extras/faq [2] FAQ 11 We could eventually surpass the artificial boundaries that divide people. If you fail to grasp the significance consider this: in the United States when the states joined together the militias disappeared at the borders and Americans were free of territorial disputes. This same process can be applied globally where all science and technology are utilized for the benefit of all of Earth's inhabitants. http://www.thevenusproject.com/extras/faq [3] FAQ 94 A high standard of living would mean that all members of society would have access to all of the necessities to sustain life - medical care, education, food, clothing, housing, entertainment, leisure time and more. Man-hours could be reduced considerably until completely eliminated. By eliminating planned obsolescence and the replication of the same products by many different manufactures and by surpassing the need for advertising, sales, lawyers, business personnel, bankers and all of the other non-productive profession we could easily provide many more goods and services to all people. Today's middle class lives better than all of the kings of the past. In a resource- based economy, when the main thrust and total aim of science and innovative technology are directed towards a higher standard of living for all, our life style could far surpass anything imagined today. http://www.thevenusproject.com/extras/faq [3] FAQ 11 The technology that we present can make it possible for the global population to obtain a very high standard of living that is higher than ever imagined possible. http://www.thevenusproject.com/extras/faq [4] Communism - Communist Party - Karl Marx - Marxist - Marxism - Jacque Fresco - The Venus Project http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHiy4EuUD2U [5] Technocracy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracy [5] Jacque Fresco - Technocracy, City Strategies, Sourcing Information [Feb. 9, 2011] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exJdWFb92bQ [6] Project Americana http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacque_Fresco#Project_Americana [7] Sociocyberneering, Inc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacque_Fresco#Sociocyberneering.2C_Inc. [8] Venus Project http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacque_Fresco#Venus_Project [9] FAQ12 http://www.thevenusproject.com/extras/faq [9] The Venus Project/An Obsolete Monetary System/Resource Based Economy/The Choice Is Ours To Make http://www.thevenusproject.com/about/the-venus-project [9] What is a Resource Based Economy? http://www.thevenusproject.com/about/resource-based-economy [9] Research Center http://www.thevenusproject.com/about/research-center [9] The Venus Projects $100,000 Big Budget Movie Scam Prediction. http://conspiracies.skepticproject.com/forum/5349/the-venus-projects-100000-big-budget-movie-scam-prediction/#0
Barry_diller Posted November 27, 2013 Posted November 27, 2013 Assisting in stabilizing the world's population through education and voluntary birth control in order to conform to the carrying capacity of Earth's resources. I felt a strange itch in my brain then I read that
Mike Fleming Posted November 28, 2013 Posted November 28, 2013 Thanks for posting this informative video. I don't know anything about the Venus Project, but I admire anyone willing to expose himself and his ideas to criticism. I think it's brave for anyone to put there ideas out there, but when they don't respond to what I see as valid criticisms and charge on regardless that's when they start to become less than admirable in my eyes.
zg7666 Posted December 2, 2013 Posted December 2, 2013 As far as I understand it, there is some difference between TVP (Frasco&Meadows) and RBE (Peter Joseph) and there is some friction among those groups.
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