PoopMeat Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Anyways I was informed of some poo flinging from a individual by the name of Victor Pross. Victor I believe is a ancap who has debated TZM'ers a few times in the past. Anyways Victor is currently making a youtube video series blog which seems to be based around some correspondence and concerns with TZM mainly with Neil Kiernan aka VTV. VTV heared about the video and responded back to Victor's video with a blog. While I was reading through VTV's responce to Victor Pross youtube series, VTV hit upon the Stefan and stormcloudgathering debate in a screen grab he took. In the screen grab Neil makes a claim that he knows Stefan is lying about not watching the light bulb documentary before debating with SCG and has "squirmed" out of responding about the documentary. Which is weird because in the SCG debate video with Stefan, after the discussion between Stefan had with VTV, I thought VTV concluded that Stefan never watched the light bulb documentary. VTV even said in the discussion that he does not beleive Stefan is lying yet the screen grab would suggest otherwise. So why would VTV simply make up a claim that Stefan has watched the light bulb documentary? Is he intentionally lying? What made VTV come back to the conclusion that Stefan had seen the blub documentary before debating SCG and that now Stefan is lying? It's possible I'm misunderstanding something, maybe VTV could elaborate on this... Victor Pross Oct 24, 2013: Do ya really think he saw the light bulb doc? Huh-huh, do ya, do ya? :}Neil Kiernan Oct 25, 2013: I don't think he did. I know he did. And he squirmed around it. When I asked him what he thought of it he replied with a response to something said in the film. Then he just tried to pretend he never watched it. I gave him the benefit of the doubt in that he may of just forgotten, but I KNOW what he said I've heard of the light bulb documentary only after I started a topic on skepticproject.com at which SP.om members debunked the notion that planned obsolescence is not a good way to run a business. To elaborate any business that has a business strategy with planned obsolescence in mind would soon fail do to outside competition. Soon after I posted about that topic, I got hate mail which directed me to the 100 year light bulb documentary but still to this day have not watched it. As far as the Victor Pross youtube series I thought the guy just wanted to make a video blog and get things that concerned him off his mind. Although VTV is allowed to respond to the videos, I thought it was immature of VTV to start to attack and even shame Victor. Though I'm not surprized with what VTV did as this is a pattern of behavior that VTV has done time and time again in the past. From what I saw I thought Victors youtube series was a attempt to get his concerns out there than an attack. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Freedom is Tyranny? Stefan Molyneux Debates StormCloudsGathering (go to 1:38:15 into video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBH9K6hKEmM#t=98m15s The "Victor Pross" saga. A curious and bizarre tale. v-radioblog.blogspot.com/2013/12/the-victor-pross-saga-curious-and.html. Victor Pross Oct 24, 2013: Do ya really think he saw the light bulb doc? Huh-huh, do ya, do ya? :}Neil Kiernan Oct 25, 2013: I don't think he did. I know he did. And he squirmed around it. When I asked him what he thought of it he replied with a response to something said in the film. Then he just tried to pretend he never watched it. I gave him the benefit of the doubt in that he may of just forgotten, but I KNOW what he said Picture of VTV still saying that Stefan lied and infact did watch the light bulb documentary. Plagiarism, Sexual Manipulation, Neil Kiernan and Scandal (Part One) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oo0m-4TVf9w Intellectual bullying, Intellectual Snobbery, Zeitgeist and Neil Kiernan (Part Two) The Neil Kiernan Saga - a Curious and Bizarre tale. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iQkqyc1x0Q Announcement: 2014 videos series "Deconstructing Zeitgeist" Thoughts on Planned Obsolescence? http://politics.skepticproject.com/forum/5517/thoughts-on-planned-obsolescence/#0
Freedomain Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 Life is short. Spend your time wisely folks.
kalmia Posted December 18, 2013 Posted December 18, 2013 I know for a fact that Stefan gets off regularly by sticking lighbulbs up his ass and farting them into illumination. Any statements to the contrary are filthy LIES!
PoopMeat Posted December 18, 2013 Author Posted December 18, 2013 True MMD. I know for a fact that Stefan gets off regularly by sticking lighbulbs up his ass and farting them into illumination. Any statements to the contrary are filthy LIES! LOL VTV suggests Stefan is scared of the light bulb movie. What's so scarey about a light bulb? At that I didn't think Stefan used slimy tactics. VTV suggests Stefan was panic but the only trembling I heard was within VTV's voice. At that I find the irony that VTV is upset because someone secretly recorded him because he's used secretly recorded material against other people within TZM to justify his actions within TZM and to a outside audience. I'm glad he's got a dose of his own medicine. I have dealt with VTV for a few years and they mainly have not been pleasant experiences. From him starting a topic on TZM forum that he stickied of people he deemed worthy of blacklisting from facebook, website etc, to the inability for him to admit he has in fact lied even in the most smallest of lies he to me is the very definition of a narcissists maybe even a psychopath. Something is very mentally wrong with the guy and normally I would never attempt to tell anyone to go seek professional help but sometimes I make an exception. VTV's not terribly bad I've dealt with worst but he certainly has a lot of character flaws to the extent that I think something is mentally wrong with the guy. A good read for anybody who wants to identify a manipulative person. Dealing With Manipulative People http://www.culteducation.com/reference/brainwashing/brainwashing11.html
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