aFireInside Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 I told him, that i can't be his friend any more because we have nothing in common. I became his friend because i thought he wanted to take the red pill. But as i turns out he took the blue pill. I wounder if this was a good move. He is still a little kid, he can't understand basic philosophical concepts and can't to basic task or follow in conversations. Its hard to tell if he is not following in a conversation because sometimes people just nod. I would define a moron as someone who can adapt to there environment and seem normal on the outside. (talk about sports, the weather) But a moron can't understand basic concepts. Example: math concepts, philosophy concepts, economics,... etc One of the things that got me pissed off. Was when I told him that his dad was holding him back, and he ignores it . I know this because he says why aim i lazy or dumb. And i told him who around you benefits from you being lazy and dumb ? he couldn't answer. I told him your dad because if you are gone he will be alone. But he takes it as an attack and ignores it. And acts like nothing just happened. And to me that is discussing because you are basically taking the blue pill .. At least give me a good response. (acknowledgment ) (keep in mind this friend is over aged not a kid anymore . ) When i say basic concepts i don't mean over intellectualized concepts. Im talking about things a little kid could understand.
Josh -Lel- Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Kids can usually understand complex, philosophical concepts if their parents aren't getting mad at them for doing so. I would say he is still feeling that pressure in his reluctancy.
_LiveFree_ Posted December 20, 2013 Posted December 20, 2013 Do you understand how absolutely difficult this stuff is? You're blaming this guy for not wanting to become a 10th degree black belt philosopher. If you became friends with him because you thought he would take the red pill, that was your first mistake. Look at what people do, not what you think they will do. There are personalities out there that will mirror whomever is giving them attention at the time. You literally will get back what you put out until what you demand requires fundamental change. Be gentle and curious. 1st and foremost with yourself. If this interaction with this guy left you disgusted and frustrated, ask yourself why without passing judgment. How can you demand integrity within others when you don't show it to yourself first?
aFireInside Posted December 20, 2013 Author Posted December 20, 2013 Kids can usually understand complex, philosophical concepts if their parents aren't getting mad at them for doing so. I would say he is still feeling that pressure in his reluctancy. I agree, sorry i was not clear. I know kids are really smart. But i meant to say he is still an absused kid. and stuck like that Do you understand how absolutely difficult this stuff is? You're blaming this guy for not wanting to become a 10th degree black belt philosopher. If you became friends with him because you thought he would take the red pill, that was your first mistake. Look at what people do, not what you think they will do. There are personalities out there that will mirror whomever is giving them attention at the time. You literally will get back what you put out until what you demand requires fundamental change.Be gentle and curious. 1st and foremost with yourself. If this interaction with this guy left you disgusted and frustrated, ask yourself why without passing judgment. How can you demand integrity within others when you don't show it to yourself first? I actually gave him allot of time , 4 years to be exact. I would help him with homework and personal stuff. But just when i got to the core of the problem. He decided to start ignoring my tought about why he is this way .. When it got to the point of parents. And i still gave him time . But one day i decided to stop because i was getting frustrated at him complaining about his problems to me and i could do anything about it because the topic about "parents" was not an option . He told me specifically i don't want to talk about that.
cynicist Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 He doesn't sound like a moron to me. If he is continuing to act a certain way for the benefit of his father, then he must also be getting something out of that interaction, right? You are trying to talk a kid out of eating his candy and then getting upset that he won't listen.
aFireInside Posted December 21, 2013 Author Posted December 21, 2013 This is where i got the definition from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxSI4JA3Zqk&feature=youtu.be He doesn't sound like a moron to me. If he is continuing to act a certain way for the benefit of his father, then he must also be getting something out of that interaction, right? You are trying to talk a kid out of eating his candy and then getting upset that he won't listen. Im not trying to talk to him out of anything don't get me twisted. I just said i felt disgusted at people who choose to take the blue pill . and i don't want to do anything with them.
_LiveFree_ Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 I think you mean disgust. What do you feel physically when you see someone "take the blue pill"?
aFireInside Posted December 21, 2013 Author Posted December 21, 2013 I think you mean disgust. What do you feel physically when you see someone "take the blue pill"? Yeah, thanks i edited already . They trade the truth for comfort. So it reminds me of all the people who have hurt me in the past.
_LiveFree_ Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 Yeah, thanks i edited already . They trade the truth for comfort. So it reminds me of all the people who have hurt me in the past. OK. So what do you feel physically when you see someone "take the blue pill"?
aFireInside Posted December 21, 2013 Author Posted December 21, 2013 OK. So what do you feel physically when you see someone "take the blue pill"? Physically ? Well i don't recall exactly what i felt, but i didn't feel good . I feel more or less the same way physically as i would if i was depressed
_LiveFree_ Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 Physically ? Well i don't recall exactly what i felt, but i didn't feel good . I feel more or less the same way physically as i would if i was depressed And how would that feel?
aFireInside Posted December 21, 2013 Author Posted December 21, 2013 And how would that feel? Physically it would affects me by loss of energy, and tension in the body. I dont understand why this is relevant ?
_LiveFree_ Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 Physically it would affects me by loss of energy, and tension in the body. I dont understand why this is relevant ?How can you have empathy for others if you don't show it to yourself first? You do realize that there are 7 billion people on the planet and only a small fraction of them take the red pill? Do you feel a loss of energy for all of them or just people in you are close to? If so, what's the difference between the two?
aFireInside Posted December 22, 2013 Author Posted December 22, 2013 How am i not having empathy for myself ? I did this for me . and i Did give empathy and time to this person. This was just recent. And yeah i do know that there are allot of people in the planet that is one of the reason i decided to do this. I felt depressed with this person because I knew this person and i don't know the 7 billion people in the planet .
AnCapJavi Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 So you were friends for 4 years. When you became friends you had something in common. You grew in a certain direction and he didn't. This has happened to me with friends, family, relationships. It seems like you are angry that you lost a companion but maybe more. There's something I learned to do recently that you may want to try: 1. Write what you would say to him. 2. Write how the conversation would go between you and he, back and forth about how you feel upon first posting about it. 3. Then write a response as him (only) to the whole thing. 4. See what comes up.
_LiveFree_ Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 How am i not having empathy for myself ? I did this for me . and i Did give empathy and time to this person. This was just recent. And yeah i do know that there are allot of people in the planet that is one of the reason i decided to do this. I felt depressed with this person because I knew this person and i don't know the 7 billion people in the planet . Did you feel like my questions were accusatory or attacking you? (I know I'm being annoying but I am trying to get at the root of what's happening for you.)
aFireInside Posted December 22, 2013 Author Posted December 22, 2013 Did you feel like my questions were accusatory or attacking you? (I know I'm being annoying but I am trying to get at the root of what's happening for you.) No, it was frustrating because i feel like you didnt understand what i was writing . But that may be because i didn't write down things clearly So you were friends for 4 years. When you became friends you had something in common. You grew in a certain direction and he didn't. This has happened to me with friends, family, relationships. It seems like you are angry that you lost a companion but maybe more. There's something I learned to do recently that you may want to try: 1. Write what you would say to him. 2. Write how the conversation would go between you and he, back and forth about how you feel upon first posting about it. 3. Then write a response as him (only) to the whole thing. 4. See what comes up. Thanks for the tip. I actually have heard about this i never tried it though. I do create these conversations in my head though. But i bet they would tell me more if i write them down .
aFireInside Posted December 22, 2013 Author Posted December 22, 2013 listen on 8:45 This is makes allot of sense
cynicist Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 Im not trying to talk to him out of anything don't get me twisted. Really? One of the things that got me pissed off. Was when I told him that his dad was holding him back, and he ignores it . I know this because he says why aim i lazy or dumb. And i told him who around you benefits from you being lazy and dumb ? he couldn't answer. I told him your dad because if you are gone he will be alone. But he takes it as an attack and ignores it. And acts like nothing just happened. Sounds like you are trying to get him to see/change his relationship with his father here, and he becomes defensive and acts like nothing happened in order to communicate his thoughts about that to you.
aFireInside Posted December 23, 2013 Author Posted December 23, 2013 Really? Sounds like you are trying to get him to see/change his relationship with his father here, and he becomes defensive and acts like nothing happened in order to communicate his thoughts about that to you. I meant to say force him to change his mind. Of course ill give him my thoughts but at the end of the day he makes his decision
_LiveFree_ Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 listen on 8:45 This is makes allot of sense So then why are you surrounding yourself with blue pills?
aFireInside Posted December 23, 2013 Author Posted December 23, 2013 So then why are you surrounding yourself with blue pills? thats exactly what i asked myself. I don't know , but i changed that .
super.bueno Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Dear friend, Morons are all over the place, you can find them everywhere from South Africa to Norway, from Hong Kong to Brazil. Let me ask you something, when was the last time you saw or talked to a so called normal person? I had many ,, friends '' throughout my life, now I realize that they were everything but friends. Frankly even now I am mad because I ve let those people come into my life. Now I realize ( never believed that before ), that the only cure for avoiding these kind of people is to think positive and as soon as you start doing so, you are going to attract people you like to hang out with. Believe me its so true.
aFireInside Posted January 15, 2014 Author Posted January 15, 2014 Dear friend, Morons are all over the place, you can find them everywhere from South Africa to Norway, from Hong Kong to Brazil. Let me ask you something, when was the last time you saw or talked to a so called normal person? I had many ,, friends '' throughout my life, now I realize that they were everything but friends. Frankly even now I am mad because I ve let those people come into my life. Now I realize ( never believed that before ), that the only cure for avoiding these kind of people is to think positive and as soon as you start doing so, you are going to attract people you like to hang out with. Believe me its so true. True, good people attract good people.
super.bueno Posted January 16, 2014 Posted January 16, 2014 thats exactly what i asked myself. I don't know , but i changed that . Could you give your recipe please?
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