SBRFS Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 So, Alan Turing was "pardoned" yesterday. What a slap in the face! To be hounded to his grave, then posthumously granted permission to be homosexual? Can you think of any fate worse than having your own unjust demise co-opted into a tool for aggrandizing the very class that persecuted you? I should think people around the world would be outraged at this, though I doubt much will come of it.
FreedomPhilosophy Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 I've been following this issue, the big picture is, as usual, unreported.
Pepin Posted December 25, 2013 Posted December 25, 2013 That is really quite silly. I really don't understand how other people understand these sorts of actions.
Frohicky1 Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 An interesting article: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/24/alan-turing-pardon-wrong-gay-men
SBRFS Posted December 31, 2013 Author Posted December 31, 2013 I've heard it said that the reason Turing was the only one "pardoned" is because, otherwise, there would be a surge in claims for compensation. Even putting that aside, it's a disgusting shame that so many people read about this controversy, yet cannot bring themselves to question the notion of the state having authority in it. Instead, they do a U-turn and head right back into its arms, by asking to be treated fairly.
Livemike Posted January 1, 2014 Posted January 1, 2014 So, Alan Turing was "pardoned" yesterday. What a slap in the face! To be hounded to his grave, then posthumously granted permission to be homosexual? Can you think of any fate worse than having your own unjust demise co-opted into a tool for aggrandizing the very class that persecuted you? I should think people around the world would be outraged at this, though I doubt much will come of it. On the contrary I think it's a good thing. It's at least acknowledgement that they did wrong. That's the first step to true reform. Can you imagine believing a drunk driver who claims to be no longer addicted, but who will not admit that he was drunk when he crashed through your wall? The fact that the State is forced to take back it's justification for a vile act that's a good thing. EDIT: I take all that back after reading the article referenced in an above post: (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/24/alan-turing-pardon-wrong-gay-men) They didn't apologize they just said that he should no longer be considered a criminal. This is bizarre, why should he not be considered a criminal but all the other men who did the same thing should? Is it because he was a genius and very helpful to the state? Then should a genius who was helpful to the state and who murdered or stole also be forgiven? Is the criterion some sort of ratio between wrongness (defined by the state) and usefulness (also defined by it)?
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