Omegahero09 Posted December 27, 2013 Posted December 27, 2013 So he used to play. Does anyone still play? Also how cool would it be to play with Stef? Goblins and anarchist clerics and paladins o.O
Marcus Clarke Posted December 27, 2013 Posted December 27, 2013 Maybe an online turn-based game so that everyone can take their turn whenever their children are asleep. Might take a few years to finish though
Phuein Posted January 6, 2014 Posted January 6, 2014 The more the anarchist in me grows, the more I notice how ridiculous violence and statist ideas are in fiction. It's not surprising that literature and games, the whole entertainment category, is full of random violence and extreme hierarchies. It is a notable part of our history, after all. What bothers me is the lack of game worlds and stories that do not require random violence to be adventurous, nor be extremely hierarchical as reasoning for story progression. An anarchic society does not have to be a society without challenge or conflict. There can be battle without nonsensical kings. A villain can do many vicious things, other than conquering or destroying a nation. I wonder just how important entertainment is to the moral perspective of people.
Omegahero09 Posted January 6, 2014 Author Posted January 6, 2014 Immensely important. How many people make judgements based on what they know from movies and television?Also I've thought about anarchism in D&D, the typical adventuring party is anarchic inherently because they don't want to be bound by nations or serfdoms, they want to be free to adventure and keep their spoils. Also keep in mind- the realms of fantasy have literal evil creatures and races sooo... fantasy morality is really interesting and different from our real life moralities and ethics.
dsayers Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 Immensely important. How many people make judgements based on what they know from movies and television? So true. I remember a time when I used to use quotes to converse about topics. Later, I'd link videos of people saying things more succinctly then I could. Nowadays, I'm willing to argue based on merit and not from authority of one dead guy or a 200+ yr old piece of parchment that may have accidentally gotten a couple things right. Even still, I so often find myself about to point out a movie as I believe it's something they could relate to. I almost always refrain simply because I accept that it is an inferior method of communication and confirmation bias would marginalize it as a work of fiction. I've noticed that as I've acquired self-knowledge, the types of entertainment I enjoy have shifted and/or been re-assessed. It was a bit anxiety-provoking at first since as somebody that disassociated, it was a large part of how my time was spent. I've come to accept and in fact embrace it as it now gives me a lot more time to engage in things that are far more important.
Omegahero09 Posted January 7, 2014 Author Posted January 7, 2014 Totally dude. It really wasn't as bad for me, the awareness and moral awakening brought a refreshing new light to everything- and especially film. I think people base their realities more on film though than morality, and I only say this from personal observations. When you think of war- you typically think of how it's portrayed in movies. Same goes for businesses, the cops, bank robberies, romances, drugs, even reality tv and survival shows. It's kind of scary, but really isn't shocking by any means.
powder Posted January 7, 2014 Posted January 7, 2014 The more the anarchist in me grows, the more I notice how ridiculous violence and statist ideas are in fiction. It's not surprising that literature and games, the whole entertainment category, is full of random violence and extreme hierarchies. It is a notable part of our history, after all. What bothers me is the lack of game worlds and stories that do not require random violence to be adventurous, nor be extremely hierarchical as reasoning for story progression. An anarchic society does not have to be a society without challenge or conflict. There can be battle without nonsensical kings. A villain can do many vicious things, other than conquering or destroying a nation. I wonder just how important entertainment is to the moral perspective of people. Such an excellent point Phuein. I recently watched one of my favorite movies again after 12 years, the Lord of the Rings, and although I really enjoy the characters, the plot and the special effects, I do find my mind focusing on the insane precepts that the story dwells on; conquer and control, blood-line royals and such... ugh.
Phuein Posted January 8, 2014 Posted January 8, 2014 So many fiction stories tell of struggle against conquering mad men, but none of them seem to end with actual freedom. The ending is always a restoration of what is considered the status-quo of hierarchy. The best case scenario is where everyone simply goes back to their regular servitude, under a "better" ruler, or a "more deserving" ruler. Fantasy is one thing, where-in stories such as the brilliant Discworld series mocks our accepted social hierarchy and its' history, or the Wheel of Time series uses the Aiel tribes, as an example of a more free and more brave society; where leaders are never simply obeyed, as they are all "free people." But, although I cannot recall the same in a science-fiction example, I wonder, why is it that no story puts emphasis on the value and merit of a free society and free people? It should not be just a side dish, on a platter of abnormal societies. I wonder, does anybody, at all, have any examples of fantasy or science-fiction stories that do put emphasis on liberty as the accepted social custom?
Omegahero09 Posted January 10, 2014 Author Posted January 10, 2014 Perhaps not the accepted social custom...But you could argue that the Serentity's crew in Firefly were unrealized anarchists, as the situation in The Walking Dead too.
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