batman1337 Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Let me preface this by saying I have found extraordinary value from Steph's analysis of human emotions. I am a donator and plan on continuing donating because I do find value from Steph's analysis on things ~85% of the time (I also disagree with him on male-female dynamics). I listened to this whole segment. I'm one of the crazys that wonder if an alien species did perhaps "create" humans. Now is this belief that crazy? Every christian believes god created man from the earth and woman from mans rib. How significantly different is that than saying I believe an alien species (god) came to earth and genetically engineered (created) modern humans. I fully accept both view points are crazy. Sure its nice to be cordial and respect other peoples emotions, and to approach certain topics in a cautious manner, but to blow off a question as saying you wont consider it because you think its a manifestation of childhood abuse is ridiculous. When do I know when something is appropriate? Steph at least gave the zietgeister's a rebuttal before he delved into childhood trauma. I was really disappointed from this call in show. Why are humans the only species natural to earth, able to engineer, and such. In the natural earthly evolution, when one species dominates, another starts to evolve and bring the habitat back to equilibrium. What I mean is that say a white rat migrates to the deserts of Arizona. Owls are going to have more food, and reproduce more, hunting more rats. We'll see a temporary spike in the owl population (or whatever is preying on white rats) . Now the white rats will have natural pigment variations. White rats will be easy to spot, but grey rats will be harder to spot against the brown desert sand. So the white rat population will decrease and the grey rat population will increase. As the white rat population is hunted to local extinction, the predator animals will have a harder time finding food and start dying off too, naturally bringing the habitat to equilibrium. Now if humans evolved naturally, why is there no other species that can compete with humans? As a side note, personally I think there is evidence that neanderthals and homo heidelbergensis (or some other prehuman) mated, forming modern human ancestors. The evidence is that neanderthals had a developed language, where homo heidelbergensis had less developed language. So the theory is that our vocal cords developed from the hybrid of the neaderthal and prehumans. But regardless if neanderthals and prehumans mated or not, why is their no competing species with humans? Why are humans out of equilibrium? Why is there no other species on earth that can harness the power of the atom? Also there are various unexplained phenomenon, such as why does the sphinx show water erosion (making it at least 30k years old), why are Egyptian statues perfectly symmetrical, (CNC type precision on granite), perfect right angles 1/2" deep on hieroglyphics carved in obelisks, machu picchu where there are 20+ton rocks on top of the andes mountains, of which they are interlocking in complex shapes with less than millimeter gaps. Yes I admit alot of things on "ancient aliens" is fantasy, but there are some interesting points. Maybe it is my inner abused child talking, but I seriously wonder if "zeus" and "ra" and "Vishnu" were aliens from another galaxy. And honestly if you read religious text replacing "god" with "alien" the religious texts start to make some since. I'm thoroughly disappointed Steph will not consider this as "legitimate" or "worth his time". Is there really nothing philosophical from this point of view?
Mike Fleming Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Is there really nothing philosophical from this point of view? Not really in my opinion. The beginning of life on Earth is still essentially unknown. It could have started here, or it could have been seeded from space. Could have been microbes on an asteroid. Who knows? You can't say you believe one or the other because there's no reason to. It's an unknown. All life on Earth is related and we are descended from common ancestors that go all the way back to microbes. The whole Chariots of the Gods thing just doesn't make any sense when you really think about it. And the belief in that kind of thing seems very similar to religious beliefs to me. I thought Stef read and dealt with the situation very well.
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