Archimedes Posted May 24, 2014 Posted May 24, 2014 I was watching a pro socialism one for comparison: The amount of shaming, fear mongering and appeal to emotion instead of the clarity and reason in the one you linked is telling. When the speaker from your video asked a question he was accused of being abusive. Ironically, the pro socialism speaker was abusive himself when he spent the first minutes personally attacking the conservatives.
shirgall Posted May 26, 2014 Author Posted May 26, 2014 Yeah, I bookmarked to go look at the others ones, but I hadn't got to them yet.
12baird12 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 The amount of shaming, fear mongering and appeal to emotion instead of the clarity and reason in the one you linked is telling. When the speaker from your video asked a question he was accused of being abusive. Ironically, the pro socialism speaker was abusive himself when he spent the first minutes personally attacking the conservatives. Personal attacks and fear mongering seems to be a recurring pattern with most statists. It's really sad.
v_bachvarov Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 The link does not work! I was watching a pro socialism one for comparison: The amount of shaming, fear mongering and appeal to emotion instead of the clarity and reason in the one you linked is telling. When the speaker from your video asked a question he was accused of being abusive. Ironically, the pro socialism speaker was abusive himself when he spent the first minutes personally attacking the conservatives.
fractional slacker Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 An interesting video. @ 2:50 "Of course there are some occasions where any society will need to rely on coercive force, on incareration. There are some taxes that are necessary in any system. We all accept that." The guy is arguing against socialism while at the same time arguing for coercion and taxes. Is that a logical contradiction?
shirgall Posted May 29, 2014 Author Posted May 29, 2014 @ 2:50 "Of course there are some occasions where any society will need to rely on coercive force, on incareration. There are some taxes that are necessary in any system. We all accept that." The guy is arguing against socialism while at the same time arguing for coercion and taxes. Is that a logical contradiction? I took it as an attempt to avoid bikeshedding on that particularly knotty issue. I did not like it but I suspect it was a time-sensitive debate and he wanted to spend time on something else.
greekredemption Posted May 29, 2014 Posted May 29, 2014 The guy is arguing against socialism while at the same time arguing for coercion and taxes. Is that a logical contradiction? Coercion and taxes are necessary but not sufficient to conclude 'socialism'.
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