Pleiades Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 So the Santa Barbara shootings have apparently sparked another feminist "feel sorry for us" hashtag... meme... whatever. Please feel free to call me out on my bitterness here if it is clouding my judgment. These twits are attacking and demonizing all men for the actions of one sociopathic man. They are looking at any action taken by men and treating is are force and a crime against all women.One link out of far too many:http://www.boston.com/news/nation/2014/05/24/everyone-needs-read-yesallwomen/32V2F014mn9LX8qRsF6vKL/story.html Some of the twits posted: POST: Because every single woman I know has a story about a man feeling entitled to access to her body. Every. Single. One. RESPONSE: Is this really something that you go around asking your single friends? Have you bothered asking your single guy friends if they've been groped by women? Or if women felt entitled to their wallets and resources? I've been felt up by more women than I have been by men and I'm a homosexual. I think it happens to everyone. Not just women. I'm not sure if she's talking about women not presently dating or referring to every woman she knows. The latter seems like hyperbole to me. POST: Girls grow up knowing that it's safer to give a fake phone number than to turn a guy down. RESPONSE: How many times have you been assaulted or hit? My guess is 0. Most guys are not assholes, but you're content to project that onto us. Boys grow up feeling sorry for being boys. We're bombarded with guilt about how our sexuality is toxic and how we need to change our naturally awful ways. I personally would argue that if you were more upfront with your disinterest then you wouldn't need to worry about men getting angry. What I've seen in clubs and bars are women will let men pay for several drinks, feign interest and then when it comes to reciprocating the they say they aren't interested. I know this isn't every encounter, but I think both men and women need to be have more open communication POST: Because young men learn about sexuality from sources that portray women as objects, not fellow humans RESPONSE: Because young men learn that to be sexually attractive to women it means that we need to be rich, good looking or powerful. Not good human beings. Oh, and even then we're still potential rapists. POST: Because I get in an elevator with a guy and think "what's my escape plan going to be?" RESPONSE: How often do you get assaulted in elevators? Why do you assume that every man is going to assault you? POST: Because you get to a point where you can't remember not being aware, alert, poised, keys between your knuckles. RESPONSE: Must make showering difficult with keys between your knuckles. You never know when a man is going to break into your home, enter the bathroom, pull back the curtains and forcibly nestle his face in your chest. I really don't believe this. Anyone this paranoid would probably never leave their home. POST: Because when we say "no", we have to consider the repercussions of that. In every context. RESPONSE: Because when you say "yes", we have to constantly make sure that you meant "yes". Even years after. Or else we go to jail and have our lives ruined. Or even if sex doesn't even happen. Just point your finger at us and shout "rape". POST: I've spent 19 yrs teaching my daughter how not to be raped. How long have you spent teaching your son not to rape? RESPONSE: I bet you didn't teach your daughter how not to rape men. He had an erection so he must have wanted it. He ejaculated so he clearly enjoyed it. Did you teach your daughter to respect men or to fear them? POST: Imagine the creative energy we would release if half of humanity didn't have to devote so much time to fear of the other half. RESPONSE: Oh, the irony... POST: #yesallwomen because entering a male dominated industry should not be a deterring realization steering you away from achieving your wants RESPONSE: Because entering a female-dominated industry should not be a risk of being called a rapist, sexual molester, pervert or child molestor. POST: In college, a police officer told us to scream FIRE if we were in danger of being assaulted otherwise people won't get involved. RESPONSE: This applies to all violent crime. Not just sexual assault, but I can understand you not wanting to care about when men are getting hurt. Then you can't feel sorry about yourself being a poor, defenseless woman. POST: Because we're prudes when we don't sleep with you and whores when we do. RESPONSE: Because we're sexists when we want to sleep with you and we're faggots when we don't. Also a key that opens many locks is valuable; whereas, a lock that opens for any key isn't ;D The Santa Barbara tragedy was not caused by men. It was caused by a man. A man who needed love when he was younger and help when he was older. Let's focus on the source of the problem, and not attribute the horrendous actions of a single man with all men. Let's give everyone compassion unless they start to use it as a weapon.
MooMoo Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 yeah, this whole thing is annoying and pretty dumb, but i'm not sure if there is an intelligent response to it. feels like getting in the sloth with the pigs.
MysterionMuffles Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Just woke up from a nap, kinda groggy and cranky. Could not read past the 3rd post.
Magnus Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Every man I know has experienced violent aggression against his person. Every single one. Some rather severe. Many from police. I'm defending a woman at the moment who attacked her husband with a kitchen knife for reading her diary, and thereby exposing her affair. I've known a few women with some shallow and mercenary attitudes toward men in general. They often have no reservations or social inhibitions about discussing these ruthless ideas in public, in mixed company, or around children. These vices, dysfunctions and vestigial value systems are clearly not limited to men. I have to believe that the promoters of these memes know this, but have a broader social and political agenda in mind.
PatrickC Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 Yes the broader agenda I believe is that the state understands all too well that it is men that it fears most. Since men are mostly (if not always) the catalyst of change. Keeping men in as weak a position as possible keeps them from upsetting the states equilibrium.
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