The Word Democracy, plus also Permaculture

[StylesGrant]

Sorta two topics ish in one. Anyways.

 

First. I have been dealing with this word democracy used a great deal lately, and over the last several months my understanding of the nature of it has really led me to be much more trepidatious. In a sense, I am not claiming that all people who use the word are by default insisting on tyranny, as that is simply not a nuanced enough observation. What it boils down to, is that most people who use the word democracy, and in fact de facto, the usage of it, imply that they want liberty, specifically with the implication that they will not be subject to rule by elite authoritarian aspects. Now this is of course where it gets tricky, because of course if you go to lefty outlets like salon and truthdig you are going to hear democracy thrown around with the underlying implication of 'social democracy'. OK, so I am not disputing that. But at the same time people who use the word, and who read those outlets, take it to mean freedom from being ruled by a tyrant. 

 

Like for instance in any of the puppet dictator states created and maintained by American foreign policy and British Policy post WWI, it is clear that they were intentionally undemocratic. It is clear that most of the interference with countries in South America were to set up dictatorships, and prevent real progress. That is practically Chomsky's favorite subject. On the other hand, Molyneux will often point out that they were primed and ready for Communism, because they were more primitive cultures. So they had Communistic dictatorships. But one way or another they were not democratic, free, or of the liberatory sense. I still think Chomsky covers that region the best. 

 

Which sorta segues into the next topic, which is really about how Corporate Fascism, is in fact Fascism, and is in fact purposefully to interfere with agricultural economics and local and regional sovereignty. This is the origin of the 'Banana Republic' pejorative. That is to say, the real aim of Capitalist and Communist intervention in the Asian, South American, and African governments, was to create market penetration for massive capital investments into massive corporate or state subsidized outfits. And the problems still exist today, with the profound neo-feudalistic aspects of land ownership in those countries. So, it will be a combination of two things, intense government interference and red tape, with immense outside corporate ownership of massive tracks of land.

 

People will often say, well I do not want to be ruled by a corporate plutocracy, so give me democracy. Well, we clearly understand that is not the solution to the rule by a state corporate nexus. Democracy sucks. But because of the intense obfuscation and political shallowness by righties and lefties, it is almost impossible to convince a liberal that democracy isn't in their favor, whereas Permaculture most definitely is.

 

And that is what it boils down to, Democracy is an obfuscation of its real meaning. [On a side note, I will once again iterate that Dan Carlin's 5 part series on Rome best explains to anyone why Republics and Democracies are evil].

 

At this point I have a shit list of words that derive no true meaning, because of obfuscation and propaganda for centuries.

 

Capitalism

Socialism

Marxism

Democracy

Fair

Liberty

 

 

Now, for some pertinent news. A new amendment, amendment 1 in the State of Michigan for The Right to Farm Act is being pushed through. People claim that it is to protect farmers from outfits like PETA. Supporters of the bill even say that it is worthwhile because PETA spent money lobbying against it.

 

This if of course a distraction. PETA is irrelevant and totally inconsequential in relation to the real issue. Right wing people will try to say that it is all purely because PETA is lobbying for government power to infringe on property rights of farmers. This is once again another distraction and propaganda tactic.

 

If you look at it with a fine tooth comb, you'll realize that the Amendment is an attempt by State subsidized Fascistic Agricultural Conglomerates, (the same ones that are set up in South America), to limit the property rights and freedoms of normal farmers. It's just pure economic fascism. 

 

And this is what is coming down the pipe. That is why people holler democracy like headless chickens. They want the government to save them from the government giving fascistic privilege to an oligarchic industrial cartel that wants to increasingly limit more and more rights.

 

When you agree to count three out of your five slaves for the purpose of taxation and representation, it is not hard to see that a state republic is evil. Kevin Carson will quickly point out that in a corporate state nexus, the more capital and property you have the more rights you have. Little need to wonder, why that either needs a state or leads to a state to protect so much hegemony, when its gotten by force. Republics and Democracies just look good on paper, but always boil down to just plain good ole plutocracy.

 

Strongly, strongly, strongly reccommend listening to Jamin and Brett talk about Permaculture at schoolsucksproject

 

http://schoolsucksproject.com/category/podcast/autonomy-through-agorism/

 

Wouldn't hurt to listen to the history of Progressivism and Renegade US History Series on there as well, since it goes into the history of Agriculture and Progressivism and The New Deal.

[StylesGrant]

And this is about as good as a Stefan Molyneux video gets, because it describes exactly how this all mentioned above works. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=5Z_nBhfpmk4

 

It would be bad if I found myself in a situation with horrible dial up in a rural area with no other service providers, living off of cheap SAD foods from Walmart, poisoness prescriptions, terrible high-school education, and rampant health problems caused by corrupt medical profiteering, I mean I could see how that would happen to someone in a country where government interference had created a corptocracy. Thankfully, I just choose to spend money on and do business with people who support sustainable agriculture, alternative health, agorism, small farms, and other decentralized free business models and services. It would suck to know if someone were in that situation, I'm glad I dodged that bullet.

 

Oh wait, nevermind, that was my life!

 

There's a special place in hell (well if there were a hell) for the lobbyist of a state subsidized regulatory captured corporate monopoly.

[jacbot]

Lets say you form a volenterist citizen community and the citizen has shared assets (like a stockownership gives you partial ownership of a company).

Why wouldnt they be allowed to vote at a "stockholders" meeting? Its my property right?

[StylesGrant]

Lets say you form a volenterist citizen community and the citizen has shared assets (like a stockownership gives you partial ownership of a company).

Why wouldnt they be allowed to vote at a "stockholders" meeting? Its my property right?

I'm not sure which part of the discussion you are referring to, you'll have to emphasize.

 

But I did read a chapter last night about individualist anarchism and inequality. The gist isn't really different than Stefan has said, as long as people agree to volunteerism, collective property ownership, public pooling of property and capital, and individual property rights can coexist in multiplicity. It's only anarcho-communism that could in theory, well I suppose in history in Spain, be forced onto people, but that's if they choose that, plus also anarcho-communistic features can exist within individualist anarchist communities.

 

Anarcho-communism is really more of a textbook paper concept though, because it doesn't really look that way in a fully infrastructure internet setting. Clearly online communities and content sharing aren't exactly communistic or capitalistic, but are simply 'open'. My opinion is that a library isn't capitalist or communistic, but it does rest upon certain concepts of capital, the building, employees, books, but is open as a public service. My future idea of anarchism is basically the librarification of people and things.