J. D. Stembal Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I can speak for myself, as one who has studied a couple forms of martial arts and as someone who is licensed to carry a firearm and does. None of those things, learning how to fight, getting acclimated to being hit, learning to fire a gun with the sounds of gun fire close around, none of those things has made me a more violent person. In fact, my fighting style is decidedly defensive in nature and focuses on using my opponents attacks against him and when I'm carrying a firearm I am exceedingly non-confrontational. In both cases my singular goal is to remove myself from the situation safely. Now, I approached all of this from a defensive standpoint and that there are people that simply enjoy beating the crap out of people. One of the problems I have with current psychology is the concept of working out your anger. If you're angry, hit something, it's not good to bottle it up - see, it feels good to release it. Anger is there for a reason and we should all learn to process it, but learning to derive pleasure from the release of anger can lead to someone becoming more angry and violent as they seek the release that comes following a bout of anger. This is all fine and good as long as you have your sparing partner close by or a punching bag, but what happens when it's your ex-girlfriend and you don't know how to safely process your anger. You just know that if you hit something it'll feel better. Of course a good deal of anger and frustration as well as a way to deal with it can be instilled as a child by a parent. An abusive father who uses violence can cause frustration and the learned response is to use violence. It would be more effective and fruitful to use self-knowledge to find the source of anger. Venting anger with violence doesn't necessarily process anything if you don't know the source of the anger. In fact, in concealed carry courses, it is recommended that people with anger management issues consider not pursuing the CCW license until addressing the anger. I do agree that we need to stress the concept of defense with regard to self defense. You don't carry a gun because you want to shoot people, fight crime as a vigilante, or over-throw the government (common pro-control sophists illustrate gun owners in this light). The foremost reasoning is defense of one's self and property. This philosophy should also be applied to learning martial arts. It is unarmed self-defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra2411 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 It would be more effective and fruitful to use self-knowledge to find the source of anger. Venting anger with violence doesn't necessarily process anything if you don't know the source of the anger. In fact, in concealed carry courses, it is recommended that people with anger management issues consider not pursuing the CCW license until addressing the anger. I do agree that we need to stress the concept of defense with regard to self defense. You don't carry a gun because you want to shoot people, fight crime as a vigilante, or over-throw the government (common pro-control sophists illustrate gun owners in this light). The foremost reasoning is defense of one's self and property. This philosophy should also be applied to learning martial arts. It is unarmed self-defense. I just want to be clear, I don't have any anger or violence problems. Sure, I get frustrated and angry from time to time, but I recognize that it's trying to tell me something and I take the time to work it out. What I was referring to is the idea that you should release your anger physically. Angry? Hit a punching bag and work it out. That then links the pleasure you get from physical exertion with anger and I suspect can make some people angrier because they want that release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aFireInside Posted August 17, 2014 Author Share Posted August 17, 2014 It would be more effective and fruitful to use self-knowledge to find the source of anger. Venting anger with violence doesn't necessarily process anything if you don't know the source of the anger. In fact, in concealed carry courses, it is recommended that people with anger management issues consider not pursuing the CCW license until addressing the anger. I do agree that we need to stress the concept of defense with regard to self defense. You don't carry a gun because you want to shoot people, fight crime as a vigilante, or over-throw the government (common pro-control sophists illustrate gun owners in this light). The foremost reasoning is defense of one's self and property. This philosophy should also be applied to learning martial arts. It is unarmed self-defense.I agree with what you said but the last sentence got me confused. Because if you learn to fight its not unarmed, your body is the weapon. I think this is where people are missing the point, you are turning your body into a weapon. By practicing and exercising your body to be really good at hitting people . I personally don't find that appealing as an adult i have been in zero fights or altercations. I wouldn't want to turn my body into a weapon, i rather prevent dangerous situations. I don't think its immoral to learn to fight, its just something i wouldn't do. ----------------------------------------------------------**********update ----------------------------------------------------------He beat up another womanhttp://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2014/08/16/War-Machine-Apprehended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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