fractional slacker Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 BTW this video briefly shows Stef @ 1:13. I wouldn't suggest watching this video, unless you are a glutton for punishment or sympathetic to communism. It's the typical leaders are bad; capitalism produces leaders; therefore capitalism is bad. Anywho, about half way down the page an interesting exchange takes place. This cernunnos guy does a fantastic job of implementing the Socratic method to reveal the inconsistencies of the video/anarcho communism. Look for cernunnos Just out of curiosity, how do "left" anarchists define capitalism?
jpahmad Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 Just out of curiosity, how do "left" anarchists define capitalism? In a free society, you can't forcefully abolish anything. Anarcho socialist is a contradiction right?
ProfessionalTeabagger Posted September 22, 2014 Posted September 22, 2014 I wish they'd just say "communism". The video should be called "Arguments against communism". In a free society, you can't forcefully abolish anything. Anarcho socialist is a contradiction right? They view capitalism's abolition as defensive.
fractional slacker Posted September 23, 2014 Author Posted September 23, 2014 In a free society, you can't forcefully abolish anything. Anarcho socialist is a contradiction right? Correct. That is what youtube poster cernunnos makes a case for in his discussion with the video producer who tries, unsuccessfully to conflate the state with capitalism/property rights. I wish they'd just say "communism". The video should be called "Arguments against communism". They view capitalism's abolition as defensive. I am confused. I thought the video was arguing against capitalism and proffering socialism. The arguments are quite muddled and not well thought out.
luxfelix Posted September 27, 2014 Posted September 27, 2014 I find the point made in the youtube comments about allowing each system to be tested (to see which one is most efficient/popular) helpful. An analogy: Different games are played on the playground, often spontaneous and without conflicting with one another; when conflicts do arise, the parties involved want them resolved quickly (limited recess time) and amicably (don't want to ruin the spirit of fun for play). Also from the youtube comments: I don't know all that a post-scarcity economy would entail, but maybe it's a shift in emphasis from some capital archetypes to others?
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