Bouncelot Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html This should get interesting. Wonder how the many creationist groups will respond?
tasmlab Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 I was surprised at how happy this made my atheist friends on Facebook i.e., they were congratulating the pope and thinking this was an admirable thing for him. Like the church is finally going to be reasonable. But if the pope is going to say it fits into the framework of the Bible, than he is either wrong or lying. The creation story is pretty clear and any dummy can read it. If he can import any meaning into the Bible than the Bible is junk. I'm guessing this is a move to preserve revenue and keep the pedophilia factory running and funded. 3
NotDarkYet Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 I'm less likely to believe in either of those theories now. hehe
Josh F Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 The motivations of the pope are irrelevant, if he has to sound more secular to maintain his power, it is a sign that PEOPLE are changing, and thats good news. 4
luxfelix Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 The motivations of the pope are irrelevant, if he has to sound more secular to maintain his power, it is a sign that PEOPLE are changing, and thats good news. What if Pope Francis lost a bet early in his life and, as a result, had to become pope and make this declaration... (It was either that or join the KKK and turn it into the NAACP... ) 1
J-William Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 Oh good, well that settles it then. He got a call on the god phone and now we know the facts...
Tresor Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 I don’t find it that strange for the pope to now believe in evolution. It’s just a change from one religious concept that god created us, to another religious concept — we come from monkeys. I don’t understand why atheist and so called rational people would believe in something like evolution while there is simply no evidence that species are able to change from one species to another. There is small range of evolution that takes place if you look at black people for example compared to white people, but they are still the same species. And there is still—the missing link, even now they completely removed; any mention of the missing link, from the so called secular education system. People are always carried by their egos; they just don’t want to look at the evidence. There are some many examples, which make Darwinian evolution inconclusive, even the carbon dating of the planet is highly questionable. All those concepts of evolution all come from India and Hinduism; it has nothing to do with rational thought The big bang also has nothing to do with science. It’s just, again, a religious concept and has to do with god having an orgasm. I think it’s important for so called rational people to understand, where these ideas come from, and not just accept what other people tell them is logical. For a lot of people it’s just so scary that we don’t know anything, so they take some religious ideas and make them sound like its science and it’s not. Most Atheist and Christians believe in exactly the same things, they just have different reasons for it. We just don’t know— start from there. 1 4
andkon Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 The Amazing Pope: http://libertariannuts.com/15-amazing-pope/
Mister Mister Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Yes he is sounding more secular and more socialist at the same time -- adopting the strategy of the Jews in the last two centuries. Not sure that this is progress. Also I haven't been convinced of the BBT for some time, but that's maybe a topic for another thread.
Lars Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Thanks, Pope! Where would science be without you?!
shirgall Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 When the Pope endorses atheism and gives all the gold back, let me know.
A__ Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 What the hell! The Amazing Pope: http://libertariannuts.com/15-amazing-pope/ Amen!
Omegahero09 Posted November 1, 2014 Posted November 1, 2014 Is this real life? Or is this a fantasyyyyyy
luxfelix Posted November 2, 2014 Posted November 2, 2014 Or is this a fantasyyyyyy At first I thought it read, "or is this a fallacyyyyyy"
Malovane Posted November 12, 2014 Posted November 12, 2014 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-wand-9822514.html This should get interesting. Wonder how the many creationist groups will respond? Considering that the Pope came out in 1950 and said that the theory of evolution wasn't antithetical to Christian doctrine, I don't think Catholics would object to it overmuch. They haven't been literal creationists in centuries, and never really had a doctrine saying that it should be taken literally, rather than allegorically. It was purposefully left open, because even the founders of the Church were dubious about the story of Genesis. The small myriad of young earth fundamentalist churches out there already know this about the Catholics, so they probably wouldn't say much. I would, however, expect reactions from people who attended Western leftist indoctrination camps, known as public schools, to think this was some radical deviation from Catholicism, which it is not. Gregor Mendel was an Augustine monk, for gods sake.
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