iHuman Posted January 4, 2015 Posted January 4, 2015 US Police have gone from This: To This: ask yourself "Why?" and no the wide spread of video recoding devices is not it, it is barely has anything to do with it and no it is not a racial issue, they are doing it to everyone regardless of Nationality/Skin Pigment. Something is seriously Wrong, and needs to be put to an end. 3
shirgall Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Police critic does a little scenario training. 1
J. D. Stembal Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 You need to comply for your own safety. This sounds like a perfect motto for allowing fascism to take hold of your throat. 2
levi w Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 i wish the police shoot or dont shoot video had tazers, mase and batons. and why would the dude have a gun sitting on the bumper of a vehicle that isnt his?
shirgall Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 i wish the police shoot or dont shoot video had tazers, mase and batons. and why would the dude have a gun sitting on the bumper of a vehicle that isnt his? This is very abbreviated from the recommended training. It's more likely the guy that went behind the truck put down his phone and drew his gun from concealment, not from the bumper.
iHuman Posted January 15, 2015 Author Posted January 15, 2015 You need to comply for your own safety. This sounds like a perfect motto for allowing fascism to take hold of your throat. Yep! Police critic does a little scenario training. I have been through those training Scenarios myself before as well as ones that were much more difficult, guess what, they weren't as difficult as they are made out to be in that video. And that still does not excuse the literal explosion in Police shooting people without need/cause. Certainly "Accidents" Can Happen, but not as frequently as they have been, this is more of a problem with who is intentionally being hired on for police work in the US at present (look it up they have an IQ "Limit" and often look for ones with Violent dispositions and a willingness to blindly "Follow Orders" without question), and the mistake of police departments and other police of covering up for the sometimes termed "Bad Apples". It wasn't all that long ago that a policeman drawing his gun was done as a LAST RESORT, now it is usually the first thing they do, in many cases it's not even a "Escalation" issue, they start out from the maximum level of escalation. Their is an old saying "When someone feels strongly enough about an issue that they write a Letter to a politician expressing concern about it, it is a sign that many hundreds if not thousands for that one letter feel the same" based on that how much worse are things when people write songs about the problem?
J. D. Stembal Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 When I draw my firearm, it means I intend on using it, so I can only assume that when police draw their weapon, they also mean to use it.
shirgall Posted January 15, 2015 Posted January 15, 2015 When I draw my firearm, it means I intend on using it, so I can only assume that when police draw their weapon, they also mean to use it. Almost. The officer draws the firearm to stop a felony in progress or curtail or prevent violence in a escalating chain of events. It is used as a threat (and for officer safety) but not necessarily discharged. The regular person on the street has the same justification for drawing their firearm and pointing it at other people... to stop a violent felony, usually one being inflicted upon them. What's different is that the officer has the duty to apprehend violent criminals and may use lethal force to do so.
Omegahero09 Posted January 31, 2015 Posted January 31, 2015 Police critic does a little scenario training. The media is so effective it's scary. Step 1) Get the activist that's been causing trouble on board with the news station, and with the police department. Step 2) Introduce the story- give the appearance that you are being fair and objective with the promise of conclusion inherent to the story you are reporting. Step 3) Invoke empathy for the 'regular untrained and ignorant joes' going through the program. Step 4) Intimidate the activist using the program. Step 5) Conclude with the activist switching teams, drawing the same conclusions as the viewer about how they would act in his position. This story of course has nothing to do at-all with the rampant police brutality, yet they are able to expertly paint with the broadest brush imaginable without you even knowing.
iHuman Posted February 3, 2015 Author Posted February 3, 2015 Almost. The officer draws the firearm to stop a felony in progress or curtail or prevent violence in a escalating chain of events. It is used as a threat (and for officer safety) but not necessarily discharged. The regular person on the street has the same justification for drawing their firearm and pointing it at other people... to stop a violent felony, usually one being inflicted upon them. What's different is that the officer has the duty to apprehend violent criminals and may use lethal force to do so. Yes & they are making practically everything a "Felony" now, it has reached a point that the average "Law Abiding" person commits at least 7 "Felony's" every day without ever having the slightest clue they have even came close to breaking any laws. with that logic Police can "Technically" be Justified for shooting anyone who so much as gets out of bed for being a Felon/In Commission of a Felony.
shirgall Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Yes & they are making practically everything a "Felony" now, it has reached a point that the average "Law Abiding" person commits at least 7 "Felony's" every day without ever having the slightest clue they have even came close to breaking any laws. with that logic Police can "Technically" be Justified for shooting anyone who so much as gets out of bed for being a Felon/In Commission of a Felony. Yeah, but the concept of "violent felony" doesn't change very much, at least, and we can apply a LOT of pressure to tone it down on the non-violent ones. Problem is, it seems to take an incident to apply that pressure. Why is the Department of Agriculture buying rifles and body armor, for example?
iHuman Posted February 4, 2015 Author Posted February 4, 2015 Why is the Department of Agriculture buying rifles and body armor, for example? Funny (Figuratively) how whenever you point out "Inconvenient" Facts like that to a lot of people they immediately resort to the "Conspiracy Theory" or "Tinfoil Hat" Knee Jerk reaction...
iHuman Posted February 9, 2015 Author Posted February 9, 2015 I don't know if any of you have seen this before but it is a good example of just how deep the problem is https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O5eOknaXgYU
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