OtherOtie Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 I know Stef did a review of the movie so I assume some of you have seen it. It's a pretty great film. Book's even better. If anyone is interested in discussing it I am sort of obsessed with this story at the moment.
AynRand Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 I have seen the movie, but not the Stef review of it or the read the book. I liked the movie I found it very entertaining. What would you like to discuss about it? Maybe relationships between two unloving married people. Morality of infidelity in marriage, or I guess any of the major flaws within a marriage. Or maybe you wanted to discuss the actual plot. I guess either way a discussion would be nice.
MMX2010 Posted January 8, 2015 Posted January 8, 2015 I've seen the movie and Stef's review of it, but haven't read the book. Rollo Tomassi's blog is my go-to source describing women and relationships. And his article entitled Estrus is foundational in understanding women. My post, #21 here, is a complete copy of the article: https://board.freedomainradio.com/topic/42431-mgtow-not-all-women-are-like-that/?hl=estrus#entry392635 The three major things I get out of that article are: (1) A woman's uterus programs her to be double-minded and inconsistent about every important moral decision. About 80% of the time (during her non-ovulatory phase), she wants peace, stability, comfort, gentleness, and loyalty. But the other 20% of the time (during her ovulatory phase), she wants dominance, violence, aggression, discord, and rebellion. (2) Because women are generally smaller than men, they cannot, (usually), commit violence themselves. They instead must incite men and others to perform violence on their behalf. (3) A woman's double-mindedness is especially frightening to herself, so she spends the majority of her life vociferously convincing others that either: (a) She experiences no desires for violence, dominance, and rebellion OR (b) She does, indeed, experience those desires - but they don't really count because they're "not really her" - meaning that she should be defined by the majority of the time where she's not-violent. In short, the majority of people will assert that Amy Dunne was freakish in nature, an entity so far removed from "basic, biological womanhood" that her behaviors shouldn't be evidence of a woman's essential biological nature. I say that Amy Dunne's behavior is evidence of a woman's essential biological nature: the only "freakish thing" was the way she refused to hide it. 1 4
PGP Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 One of the things I looked out for when seeing the film was the crowd reaction to two events near the end. I had been clued in as what to expect. The events were the time when the female lead murders the rich guy (I'll remember this scene for a long time) and then the time when the male lead pushes her against a wall forcefully but not dangerously IMO. The reaction to the first was quiet, the second was gasping.
welcometothedarksyde Posted January 11, 2015 Posted January 11, 2015 I watched the movie but haven't read the book. The most interesting part was how it was repeatedly shown that the two leads knew nothing about eachother. The simply drifted along on a neurochemical high, and it turned out that the female lead was a murderous sociopath, and the male lead just apathetic. Maybe they go into their dating more in the book, but all that the movie showed was them having sex and other such fun. They never had a conversation in that movie. Or at least not until they had been married. I think the takeaway of this movie is that without self-knowledge and understanding what appeals to us at a base level, we could be at the whims of our biology or our past. Not only was Ben Affleck's character not actively seeking to know his prospective wife, he also didn't see the writing on the walls. She was screaming endless red-flags, but he wasn't paying attention. What I learned from the movie is that evil people are constantly telling you that they're evil, you just have to listen to them. 1
AccuTron Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 What I learned from the movie is that evil people are constantly telling you that they're evil, you just have to listen to them. TRUE! 1
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