Level_One Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 This event is a profound piece of evidence for the possibility of a peaceful humanity. I felt I should share it with all of you. Yesterday, 3.7 million people marched in France to protest the Charlie Hepbo terrorist attack, in loud defiance of terrorism, censorship, oppression, and conflict. On that day, human beings marched together not only in spite of their differences, but in celebration of humanity as one unit. I highly recommend you read the full article yourself. Read about the event here:http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/paris-france-anti-terror-rally-massive-show-unityLets discuss the significance of this event together.
shirgall Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 It was a significant event, albeit impotent. The loudest defiance to terrorism is calling out its supporters, mounting swift defense against its excesses, and refusing to consider its demands. There have been massive demonstrations against terrorism for decades in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and the rest. We've ignored them because they don't fit our media's narrative. I appreciate the march and it's intention, but I am not fond of the message. While those who started the "We Are Charlie" idea had their hearts in the right place, the statists, media, and powers-that-be got behind it rather than other statements because they know we will feel like targets and be afraid because Charlie Hepbo were the victims (with the added bonus of people whispering it was Charlie Hepbo's fault on top). Why should we identify with targets that they feel justified in attacking? The difference is that Charlie is us not that we are Charlie. What if the slogan was "Nous refusons d'être la victime de Toute personne"? (We refuse to be anyone's victim.) Hard for the cult of the omnipotent state to get behind that.
Sal9000 Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I strongly doubt that. It was a propaganda event.See https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7GnzaFIcAAh9ca.jpg:orig and https://storify.com/tometty/staunch-defenders-of-free-press-attend-solidarity for details 2
J. D. Stembal Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 I strongly doubt that. It was a propaganda event. See https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7GnzaFIcAAh9ca.jpg:orig and https://storify.com/tometty/staunch-defenders-of-free-press-attend-solidarity for details Any time this many people purposefully assemble in one area, it's for a sporting event, a violent conflict, or a politically motivated function. I am very suspicious of protests such as this. A real protest is a small group of like-minded people picketing in front of a business or courthouse with a coherent message, not a mass of humanity showing up in the same place at the same time. The only time I witnessed a throng of people of this magnitude was in Chicago in 2005 after the White Sox won the World Series. I wasn't a fan of the team, and I never liked baseball very much, but I decided to drive all the way downtown from the suburbs with a friend and pay $20 dollar for parking just to see the parade. I later heard that at least 2 million people were on the streets of downtown Chicago that day during the parade. It was almost impossible to get close to the street or see what was happening. Imagine what a group of people like that could do if a peaceful function turned violent? It's scary to consider. Conspiracy theorists suggest that any protest this large, peaceful or violent, are at least partially organized by government agents or psychological operations consultants. There is a statist agenda deep behind any 3.7 million man protest.
AynRand Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 It was a significant event, albeit impotent. The loudest defiance to terrorism is calling out its supporters, mounting swift defense against its excesses, and refusing to consider its demands. There have been massive demonstrations against terrorism for decades in Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Libya, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and the rest. We've ignored them because they don't fit our media's narrative. I appreciate the march and it's intention, but I am not fond of the message. While those who started the "We Are Charlie" idea had their hearts in the right place, the statists, media, and powers-that-be got behind it rather than other statements because they know we will feel like targets and be afraid because Charlie Hepbo were the victims (with the added bonus of people whispering it was Charlie Hepbo's fault on top). Why should we identify with targets that they feel justified in attacking? The difference is that Charlie is us not that we are Charlie. What if the slogan was "Nous refusons d'être la victime de Toute personne"? (We refuse to be anyone's victim.) Hard for the cult of the omnipotent state to get behind that. I did not know that. Thanks for the information Shirgall.
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